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Old 01-30-2008, 07:33 PM
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that has turned into a silly thread. Everyone either seems concerned with the pockets of the boys at ieah and there partners or are really jealous. I get the feeling everyone here would probably be happier if he did not work out then if he did. With that being said, they pay 5mm for a derby horse who could very well go favored. What is the ratio of downside to upside. If he wins the derby they are selling to shiek mo for 50m. If he never wins a race again they have 3 to 4 million in stud value. After speaking to Mr. Iavarone today I have a very good understanding of what they did here. Also for reference, he said he bought the piece himself and has not syndicated to any partners. I cant understand how people on this board can doubt guys that have won the types of races they have in such a short period of time. It can only be jealousy. These guys are good for the game and if they can keep just 1 horse out of the hands of the Arabs we are all the better for it....Omar
No one really cares about IEAH's money or is jealous of them. You are the one who posted the topic, we just commented on it. If you dont agree with the opinions here give some reasons why instead of pulling the "jealousy" card. If you had spoken with Mr. Iavarone earlier why didnt you post that info before? We doubt "guys that have won these type of races" because they havent really won much in the grand scheme of things and most of these kind of purchases at this time of the year dont work out. No one is rooting against them but if the fair market value of this horse is in excess of 5 million dollars, the markets are a little slanted.
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Old 01-30-2008, 07:46 PM
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it is not about fair value.Buying a leading contender for the derby has a premium built in. just compare the upside to the downside. after speaking to him it made sense. if he does nothing they have 2 mm in exposure if he fails as a stallion because he will get 3mm back to them .if he wins a big one or works as a stallion they hit a home run. Is this not true? as far as winning races. How many people win breeders cup races and can say they have the best turfer and sprinter in the country at the same time??
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:28 PM
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it is not about fair value.Buying a leading contender for the derby has a premium built in. just compare the upside to the downside. after speaking to him it made sense. if he does nothing they have 2 mm in exposure if he fails as a stallion because he will get 3mm back to them .if he wins a big one or works as a stallion they hit a home run. Is this not true? as far as winning races. How many people win breeders cup races and can say they have the best turfer and sprinter in the country at the same time??
Your numbers are flawed because it has been stated that they did not purchase 100% of the horse which is what your numbers are based upon. Lots of people win Breeders Cup races (everybody here says there are too many BC races anyway, so how hard can they be to win) and I didnt know that they had bought Midnight Lute?
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:30 PM
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Your numbers are flawed because it has been stated that they did not purchase 100% of the horse which is what your numbers are based upon. Lots of people win Breeders Cup races (everybody here says there are too many BC races anyway, so how hard can they be to win) and I didnt know that they had bought Midnight Lute?

That's why he's only pulling message board duty.
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Old 01-30-2008, 08:33 PM
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I'm tempted to make a mult named FLAC.
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