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Old 02-27-2007, 02:42 PM
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What Ghostzapper's effort really showed was how random these supposed cold streaks can be as in actuality he won that race by about five lengths. Or, perhaps you want to suggest that had Frankel been winning there wouldn't have been a bias that day AND Ghostzapper wouldn't have been shuffled and wide?.
Discreet Cat's half brother won an allowance race on that same card, at the same distance, that was run in faster final time than that King's Bishop.

And yeah, I'm seeing a trend where you seem to label the vast majority of race tracks speed biased on big racing days. Ghostzapper had a very tough trip in the race, and yeah speed was probably preferred, but he also got a lot of pace, and simply did not run as good that day as any of his other career wins in my opinion. Perhaps the effort might have been slightly better than his sharp alw win over Clockstopper earlier in the meet.

Ten Most Wanted won the Travers that year, with complete ease, while making a wide swooping move from well off the pace. The day's opener was won by a deep closer. I don't remember all the details of that day, but I do remember I didn't have the track being strongly speed biased.

Even with trip and circumstances factored in, of course Ghostzapper ran markedly better in every start of his career after that King's Bishop. That was an EXTREMELY low rated running of the King's Bishop, and the pace was certainly there for him.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:35 PM
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Obviously just kidding on the exchange rate... I remembered the Northern Hemisphere v. Southern Hemisphere distinction from last year.

Whatever happened with Simpatico Bribon; wasn't he actually the favorite in the UAE Derby last year?
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:43 PM
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Yes he was.

Like many horses who go to Ian Jory, he hasn't been seen or heard from since
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:05 PM
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Not familiar with Ian Jory; sounds like a real winner though...
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:11 PM
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better watch out i see Miss Andretti is set to go head on with discreet cat on the 31st march & belivie me she is no slouch, prob our best sprinter at minute as takeover target is spelling
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:25 PM
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better watch out i see Miss Andretti is set to go head on with discreet cat on the 31st march & belivie me she is no slouch, prob our best sprinter at minute as takeover target is spelling

Miss Andretti won't be running in any race with Discreet Cat.

But I'll bet you some American sprinter strokes her ass down that 6 furlong straight.
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:32 PM
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Choctaw Nation running as well in the last I believe.

The German horse is running too, and he is pretty tough. QUIJANO is his name
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:33 PM
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Miss Andretti won't be running in any race with Discreet Cat.

But I'll bet you some American sprinter strokes her ass down that 6 furlong straight.

Im not a keen fan of lee freeman anyway the only reason he ended up with her is his usual way of throwin money at the owners, But in saying that she is a freak a real throw back
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:14 PM
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Not familiar with Ian Jory; sounds like a real winner though...
He trained in Southern California for a while. To his credit, he had the outstanding gelding Best Pal for a while, and didn't ruin him.
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