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Old 01-19-2007, 07:05 AM
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Jazil definetly might be a serious threat...his comeback race at AQU was perfect....did what he had to do and closed for 2nd....unfortuneatly he will always need some sort of hot pace to run into...but I am a fan of the horse...
He got a very quick pace in that comeback....and still was soundly beaten by a horse who brought a 2-for-19 career record into the race.

There are some positive things "fans" of Jazil could take out of it, such as...the time of the race did come back alarmingly fast, the track did seem to be carrying speed later on in the card, and it was a useful return race to move forward off of.

However, anytime a Belmont Stakes winner is soundly beaten by a 2-for-19 horse, in an N2X Alw race, over the AQU Inner dirt---I'd be a little hesitant about calling it a "perfect comeback race."
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:12 AM
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The problem a horse like Jazil is going to have is small fields that lack speed. Older horses are constantly facing 5 or 6 horse fields in these races and it hurts a horse like Jazil.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:22 AM
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I agree about Jazil. Though he earned my respect, I don't think too highly of him. He can run all day, but will be a slave to the pace at anything under 10f.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:26 AM
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He reminds me a lot of his mother....an overrated slowpoke who always takes money, and almost always finds one or two better than herself.



Her "win" in the Demoiselle, with the 68 Beyer, was total bunk. The stewards had no right to dq Tutorial that day.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:32 AM
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He reminds me a lot of his mother....an overrated slowpoke who always takes money, and almost always finds one or two better than herself.



Her "win" in the Demoiselle, with the 68 Beyer, was total bunk. The stewards had no right to dq Tutorial that day.
Interesting how the dams of this year's Classic winners were battling it out as maidens too.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:46 AM
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I know.

Barbaro's dam and Jazil's dam weren't all that much race horse...they both were fairly useful types who were lucky to be in such a weak crop.

Bernardini's mother was a damn good horse however.
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Old 01-19-2007, 09:03 AM
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Bernardini's mother was a damn good horse however.
They need to send her back to A.P. Indy - pronto. Last two foals, both fillies were Storm Cats.

More amusing is Il De France (out of Cara Rafaela) has foals by Dynaformer and Seeking the Gold.
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Old 01-19-2007, 07:38 PM
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I know.

Barbaro's dam and Jazil's dam weren't all that much race horse...they both were fairly useful types who were lucky to be in such a weak crop.

Bernardini's mother was a damn good horse however.
That's arguable, considering that Cara Rafaela had a "giant" 4 wins from 24 starts, and never won past her 2YO season, and didn't even get a placing after her 3YO season.
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Old 01-19-2007, 08:51 AM
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He got a very quick pace in that comeback....and still was soundly beaten by a horse who brought a 2-for-19 career record into the race.

There are some positive things "fans" of Jazil could take out of it, such as...the time of the race did come back alarmingly fast, the track did seem to be carrying speed later on in the card, and it was a useful return race to move forward off of.

However, anytime a Belmont Stakes winner is soundly beaten by a 2-for-19 horse, in an N2X Alw race, over the AQU Inner dirt---I'd be a little hesitant about calling it a "perfect comeback race."

I am surprised you would write all this stuff, that is basically wrong, in light of the fact that you are not following Aqueduct at all. I realize the new feisty DrugS is looking for action but why do it in a way that embarrasses and demeans your immense handicapping talent?
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