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Old 05-11-2021, 11:37 PM
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With Medina in, how can anyone bet this race?
The MJC & Stronach made a grievous error here and I hope it costs them dearly at the windows.
People WILL bet it. Probably in record numbers. People will watch. Because we always do. People in the industry know this. Trainers cheat. Jockeys cheat. Drugs. Buzzers. Stiffing horses. None of this stuff is new and yet it doesn't stop new wagering records from being set all the time. Medina Spirit will win and move on to NY with a chance at the TC unless he's disqualified from his Derby win before the Belmont.
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Old 05-12-2021, 12:58 AM
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After listening to Dr. Scollay explain how medication is metabolized and medication withdraw rates, I’m convinced Baffert has been playing Russian Roulette with medication his entire career.

Baffert is the Nicky (Christopher Walken) character in The Deer Hunter.

Baffert sends wads of cash to his owners every month as long as the chamber is empty. When it does go off and he gets a positive, so far it’s been just a graze wound. Baffert’s behavior will not change. It’s only a matter of time before it’s all over.
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Old 05-12-2021, 07:46 AM
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Should we just cave in and embrace this darker, seedier side of horse racing? Could producing a Narcos style Netflix series that depicts a Baffert-like trainer, high society clients and Arab sheiks create an explosion of interest in the game?

Why do we even think it will ever change. Baffert will win the Derby next year
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Old 05-12-2021, 09:22 AM
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Should we just cave in and embrace this darker, seedier side of horse racing? Could producing a Narcos style Netflix series that depicts a Baffert-like trainer, high society clients and Arab sheiks create an explosion of interest in the game?

Why do we even think it will ever change. Baffert will win the Derby next year
My introduction to horse racing came watching the movie “The Black Stallion”. I learned then that they cheat and I’ve worked under the assumption that everyone cheats from the very beginning. I’m just not gonna sit here and talk about the integrity of the sport when I’ve never believed there was much to begin with so nothing surprises me. I can sit here and act like I’m so appalled and outraged but I know I’ll be betting on the weekend....on Baffert’s horses....so what would be the point?
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Old 05-12-2021, 11:00 AM
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My introduction to horse racing came watching the movie “The Black Stallion”. I learned then that they cheat and I’ve worked under the assumption that everyone cheats from the very beginning. I’m just not gonna sit here and talk about the integrity of the sport when I’ve never believed there was much to begin with so nothing surprises me. I can sit here and act like I’m so appalled and outraged but I know I’ll be betting on the weekend....on Baffert’is horses....so what would be the point?
Totally agree! if you can't do anything about it and it's a waste of your money ....... DON'T BET!
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Old 05-12-2021, 11:34 AM
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During the pandemic I was betting Fonner park and whatever Australia had to offer along with whatever tree in my backyard bloomed first. I’ll be taking in all the Pimilco action Saturday. Enjoy!
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Old 05-12-2021, 06:11 PM
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Lukas isn’t helping with the public perception of the sport.

https://twitter.com/downeyprofile/st...877315590?s=21
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My introduction to horse racing came watching the movie “The Black Stallion”. I learned then that they cheat and I’ve worked under the assumption that everyone cheats from the very beginning. I’m just not gonna sit here and talk about the integrity of the sport when I’ve never believed there was much to begin with so nothing surprises me. I can sit here and act like I’m so appalled and outraged but I know I’ll be betting on the weekend....on Baffert’s horses....so what would be the point?
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