2019 Derby Trail: Bourbon War brings Belmont field to 10

[moses]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

After watching Hoffa's union drifting down the lane and on gallop out, I would need 15-1 to play.

Regarding Vekoma. If you watch the head on of the fountain of youth, maybe you could explain his action. To me his left front is like an egg beater. It goes way left before coming down . Like a left hook as opposed to a jab. He really had no excuse after a perfect trip and was life and death to nail Hidden Scroll for third in that 7 second last 1/16. My brother loves him too because of the way the track is playing . He says no more than 5/2, but with a 14 hoss field, I find it hard to believe that some crooked running guy is so low in price.

I think he’s just got a funky stride. The FOY was off the lay-off. He should be ready to go today.

[RHT2004]

Vekoma is just Ok. I'm 4 deep and didn't cover him today. I used 1 6 7 11.
Tacitus marches on as the Derby chalk.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Vekoma is just Ok. I'm 4 deep and didn't cover him today. I used 1 6 7 11.
Tacitus marches on as the Derby chalk.

4 Deep in what??? You had the 52-1 Horse???? Paco's Mom didn't even bet that one.

[jms62]

Is it me or was the 1 and 2 horses running sideways for a bit?

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Vekoma is just Ok. I'm 4 deep and didn't cover him today. I used 1 6 7 11.
Tacitus marches on as the Derby chalk.

Tacitus needs to get keep better to win derby which he can but he’s not there yet. That wood wasn’t very fast and only tax showed up. Vekoma needs to run straight but that was good prep. Win Win Win ran pretty good and can improve next race. If game winner wins SA derby he will be chalk. Derby is still wide open and can’t wait to try to figure it out.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Tacitus needs to get keep better to win derby which he can but he’s not there yet. That wood wasn’t very fast and only tax showed up. Vekoma needs to run straight but that was good prep. Win Win Win ran pretty good and can improve next race. If game winner wins SA derby he will be chalk. Derby is still wide open and can’t wait to try to figure it out.

I know you like WWW, but like I said before the Tampa Bay Derby he feels like another one who needs 1 turn. That's where I would be pointing if he was mine.
I think things got pretty clear today. Bob has a power house 3. Mott has a monster who improves every race, and Vekoma ran better then I thought he would so he's a player, I guess. I'm really not sure he beat anything today. A few turf horses and Pletchers 4th string??

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I know you like WWW, but like I said before the Tampa Bay Derby he feels like another one who needs 1 turn. That's where I would be pointing if he was mine.
I think things got pretty clear today. Bob has a power house 3. Mott has a monster who improves every race, and Vekoma ran better then I thought he would so he's a player, I guess. I'm really not sure he beat anything today. A few turf horses and Pletchers 4th string??

Tacitus is a monster? Really?

A little early, no? Promising for sure, but hardly a monster. Everything doesn't have to be hyperbole.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Tacitus is a monster? Really?

A little early, no? Promising for sure, but hardly a monster. Everything doesn't have to be hyperbole.

You know I love him. If I had to choose 1 horse right now it would be him. He feels most likely to me to sit the right trip and move forward again. That's knowing Baffert is going to have 3 live shots. Baffert could have the top 3 betting favorites if Improbable is impressive next Saturday.

[moses]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I know you like WWW, but like I said before the Tampa Bay Derby he feels like another one who needs 1 turn. That's where I would be pointing if he was mine.
I think things got pretty clear today. Bob has a power house 3. Mott has a monster who improves every race, and Vekoma ran better then I thought he would so he's a player, I guess. I'm really not sure he beat anything today. A few turf horses and Pletchers 4th string??

I like Improbable a whole lot but the Arkansas Derby is a pretty tough field. There is at least a chance he doesn’t finish in the top 3 next weekend and that Power House 3 becomes a Power House 2.

I’m debating on putting a future wager on Improbable. He was just at 12-1. If he rises a little, I’ll probably put some money on him.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by moses

I like Improbable a whole lot but the Arkansas Derby is a pretty tough field. There is at least a chance he doesn’t finish in the top 3 next weekend and that Power House 3 becomes a Power House 2.

I’m debating on putting a future wager on Improbable. He was just at 12-1. If he rises a little, I’ll probably put some money on him.

Can’t see game winner having any shot. If he was a power house would have won easy today.

[moses]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Can’t see game winner having any shot. If he was a power house would have won easy today.

I agree I don’t like Game Winner. Good horse but I don’t see him winning the derby. We’ll see about Improbable. I don’t think he’ll beat Omaha Beach.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

I know you like WWW, but like I said before the Tampa Bay Derby he feels like another one who needs 1 turn. That's where I would be pointing if he was mine.
I think things got pretty clear today. Bob has a power house 3. Mott has a monster who improves every race, and Vekoma ran better then I thought he would so he's a player, I guess. I'm really not sure he beat anything today. A few turf horses and Pletchers 4th string??

Baffert doesn’t have a power house three. He had one shot Roadster. Tacitus is improving but far from a monster. His figures won’t be high from the wood. The horse that impressed me the most so far Joey is maximum security but hell can you bet him in derby. This is going to be a difficult puzzle first Saturday in May.

[moses]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Vekoma is just Ok. I'm 4 deep and didn't cover him today. I used 1 6 7 11.
Tacitus marches on as the Derby chalk.

Just my opinion but he looked very impressive today. Not sure if he’ll be chalk but I like how things played out today.

I’ve been out on Game Winner as the derby favorite. He doesn’t get good early position and runs wide a lot. I like the horse but he runs in small fields and still doesn’t get ideal trips. I thought he should have won today but was 4 wide the entire race.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by moses

I think he’s just got a funky stride. The FOY was off the lay-off. He should be ready to go today.

Good job Mo. you certainly were right on about Vekoma. It still looks to me like he’s about to fall over to me but he runs fast . Congratulations, hope you scored.