Lock of the year

Kitan · #1 10-13-2017, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004

Friday, Keeneland Race 5
#11 Trust

This horse cannot be defeated.

If I was a bookie I'd give you 20-1 odds.

blackthroatedwind · #2 10-13-2017, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitan

If I was a bookie I'd give you 20-1 odds.

If you were a bookie, and you gave out 20:1 on random 7:2 shots, you would be broke.

The guy comes here and gives an opinion. He's having some fun. Who do you like in the race? I'll bet $50, loser donates it to TRF, that his horse beats whatever horse you pick.

Kitan · #3 10-13-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If you were a bookie, and you gave out 20:1 on random 7:2 shots, you would be broke.

The guy comes here and gives an opinion. He's having some fun. Who do you like in the race? I'll bet $50, loser donates it to TRF, that his horse beats whatever horse you pick.

He said the horse was a lock. I'm having fun by saying I don't like the horse at all and would offer those odds hypothetically. I'm not interested in betting the race, I just don't think his horse is the lock of the year by any means. Anyways it shouldn't be important to you who I like in the race, I think you have your own worries with your own picks...

By the way, 1) if I was a bookie I could afford to make those offers from time to time and 2) have you ever heard of exchange or lay wagering?

blackthroatedwind · #4 10-13-2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan

He said the horse was a lock. I'm having fun by saying I don't like the horse at all and would offer those odds hypothetically. I'm not interested in betting the race, I just don't think his horse is the lock of the year by any means. Anyways it shouldn't be important to you who I like in the race, I think you have your own worries with your own picks...

By the way, 1) if I was a bookie I could afford to make those offers from time to time and 2) have you ever heard of exchange or lay wagering?

So you have no opinion, but knocked his?

You didn't need the second paragraph. You were just piling on yourself. What exchange wagering has to do with you obnoxiously criticizing someone else's pick, especially when you don't even have one of your own, will remain a great mystery.

jms62 · #5 10-13-2017, 12:09 PM

I'd take a shot with 2-Pinot

Kasept · #6 10-13-2017, 12:17 PM

Joe & Ed look like they have this cornered with the 1 & 11..

I think you want to add #2 Pinot, by win early Into Mischief, to the mix at 10-1. KEE-based Gorder another guy that does strong work second out, filly got an education in modest debut and drilled a sharp half mile readying for this..

Best Value: #2 Pinot 10-1 5th
Next Best: #11 Trust 5-1 WON ($9.80)
Exotics Use: #12 Flash n' Dance 3-1 2nd
Super Add: #8 Gorgeous in Rags 12-1 4th

knickslions2 · #7 10-13-2017, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Joe & Ed look like they have this cornered with the 1 & 11..

I think you want to add #2 Pinot, by win early Into Mischief, to the mix at 10-1. KEE-based Gorder another guy that does strong work second out, filly got an education in modest debut and drilled a sharp half mile readying for this..

Best Value: #2 Pinot 10-1
Next Best: #11 Trust 5-1
Exotics Use: #1 Dagney's Warrior 6-1
Super Add; #12 Flash n' Dance 3-1

Ya that 1 scratched so 2 is a must add on for sure. I think the 12 is just faster then the 11 here so I wouldn't use the 11 so Im sure 11 will romp. The 14 horse is interesting that I may dabble a little on. GL

Kasept · #8 10-13-2017, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2

Ya that 1 scratched so 2 is a must add on for sure. I think the 12 is just faster then the 11 here so I wouldn't use the 11 so Im sure 11 will romp. The 14 horse is interesting that I may dabble a little on. GL

#14 August Snow a $1.3MM half to Hoppertunity/Executiveprivlege by Tapit..

taxicab · #9 10-14-2017, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Joe & Ed look like they have this cornered with the 1 & 11..

I think you want to add #2 Pinot, by win early Into Mischief, to the mix at 10-1. KEE-based Gorder another guy that does strong work second out, filly got an education in modest debut and drilled a sharp half mile readying for this..

Best Value: #2 Pinot 10-1
Next Best: #11 Trust 5-1
Exotics Use: #12 Flash n' Dance 3-1
Super Add: #8 Gorgeous in Rags 12-1

Into Mischief is deadly first time out,as good as it gets..........I always carry them on the multi's.
IM has a couple of first timers going in the 6th @ Keenland on Saturday[Iona Mobe/Loup]..........they can probably run a bit.

NTamm1215 · #10 10-14-2017, 06:45 AM

Great pick. Poor thing was carrying a lot of us and still got it done!

Kitan · #11 10-13-2017, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004

20-1 Is silly. Even if he runs last, giving me 7x his likely post time odds is ignorant.

Nice pick RHT. I wouldn't have bet her even at 20-1 because I thought the horse had no chance with the inside speed. Evidently, they both SCRed after I posted. Not backing away from what I said (in fixed odds it doesn't matter) or taking away from your pick, but it definitely changed the race complexion.

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So you have no opinion, but knocked his?

You didn't need the second paragraph. You were just piling on yourself. What exchange wagering has to do with you obnoxiously criticizing someone else's pick, especially when you don't even have one of your own, will remain a great mystery.

I've posted enough picks here for it to be well known I'm not afraid of making my opinions public. Other than to force bets, why do I have to have an opinion on a winner every race? I'm not being paid to pick. Can't my opinion be that I find it hard to like anything and I'd much rather lay against what I think is a bad favourite or low underlay than to take a shot to try and beat him/her? How many times have you taken a random stab against a bad fav only for some other random horse like Snake Oil Charlie to win? Wouldn't you have preferred just to bet against the fav winning?

blackthroatedwind · #12 10-13-2017, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Kitan

Nice pick RHT. I wouldn't have bet her even at 20-1 because I thought the horse had no chance with the inside speed. Evidently, they both SCRed after I posted. Not backing away from what I said (in fixed odds it doesn't matter) or taking away from your pick, but it definitely changed the race complexion.

I've posted enough picks here for it to be well known I'm not afraid of making my opinions public. Other than to force bets, why do I have to have an opinion on a winner every race? I'm not being paid to pick. Can't my opinion be that I find it hard to like anything and I'd much rather lay against what I think is a bad favourite or low underlay than to take a shot to try and beat him/her? How many times have you taken a random stab against a bad fav only for some other random horse like Snake Oil Charlie to win? Wouldn't you have preferred just to bet against the fav winning?

So let's see, you actually gave a caveat for your horrendous opinion ( one man's caveat is another's whine ) as opposed to JUST congratulating him on a sensational opinion.

As for stabs...Snake Oil Charlie? Really? The last time I picked him he won at Aqueduct a couple years ago and paid around $24. You're really on top of your game today. Probably should have quit while you were merely badly behind.

I do, however, give you credit for posting pre-race picks here. That's very fair. You certainly have done a lot of that.

Kasept · #13 10-13-2017, 04:03 PM

Great work Joe! That was fun.

Kitan · #14 10-13-2017, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So let's see, you actually gave a caveat for your horrendous opinion ( one man's caveat is another's whine ) as opposed to JUST congratulating him on a sensational opinion.

As for stabs...Snake Oil Charlie? Really? The last time I picked him he won at Aqueduct a couple years ago and paid around $24. You're really on top of your game today. Probably should have quit while you were merely badly behind.

I do, however, give you credit for posting pre-race picks here. That's very fair. You certainly have done a lot of that.

$24 isn't random, $100+ in his maiden was. Anyways, criticized for not giving an opinion, lambasted for then explaining my opinion. It's midnight, I don't have time to keep giving you bait. Have a nice day.