Derby prep final quarter time

[Secretriat34]

I'm not picking anything here, just formatting past data in a form that might have meaning.

The time you quote for creative cause..he lost to IHA in SA and In CD, so I'm not sure what your point is

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Secretriat34

I'm not picking anything here, just formatting past data in a form that might have meaning.

The time you quote for creative cause..he lost to IHA in SA and In CD, so I'm not sure what your point is

I stated the point...he lost by a whisker at sa and came home faster in the final 3/8. The data you post is reverse engineering, taking a result ( ky derby ) and using a previous result ( sa derby ) to fit your criteria ( fastest closing time in prep race ) only you ignored a faster closing time. Not only that, you cherry picked derby results that fit your theory, while ignoring countless other years where the horse with the fastest closing time in a prep failed to win the derby.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

I stated the point...he lost by a whisker at sa and came home faster in the final 3/8. The data you post is reverse engineering, taking a result ( ky derby ) and using a previous result ( sa derby ) to fit your criteria ( fastest closing time in prep race ) only you ignored a faster closing time. Not only that, you cherry picked derby results that fit your theory, while ignoring countless other years where the horse with the fastest closing time in a prep failed to win the derby.

As much as I appreciate you effort here PCL, I'm afraid that you may be wasting your time explaining relevant, factual data to him.

Closing time, without any regard to pace, track variant, etc. is useless.

But we do have 3 threads to discuss it in, so there's that.

[Secretriat34]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

As much as I appreciate you effort here PCL, I'm afraid that you may be wasting your time explaining relevant, factual data to him.

Closing time, without any regard to pace, track variant, etc. is useless.

But we do have 3 threads to discuss it in, so there's that.

great horses like derby winners can race on any surface or track and win, the only thing that matters is time. how fast can you run 2200 yards in..time and distance.

I dont care about track variant, pace, etc. if you can close the final 1/4 in 22 , your gonna win

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

As much as I appreciate you effort here PCL, I'm afraid that you may be wasting your time explaining relevant, factual data to him.

Closing time, without any regard to pace, track variant, etc. is useless.

But we do have 3 threads to discuss it in, so there's that.

Thanks, fortunately I have time to waste. I simply couldn't stand it anymore.

[Indian Charlie]

I boldly predict that the horse who runs the fastest final time in the Kentucky Derby will be the horse that also wins it.

But I'm sure Dunbar or RTH will dispute that and call me and my reasoning far fetched.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

As much as I appreciate you effort here PCL, I'm afraid that you may be wasting your time explaining relevant, factual data to him.

Closing time, without any regard to pace, track variant, etc. is useless.

But we do have 3 threads to discuss it in, so there's that.

This is beautifully done.

[Secretriat34]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

I stated the point...he lost by a whisker at sa and came home faster in the final 3/8. The data you post is reverse engineering, taking a result ( ky derby ) and using a previous result ( sa derby ) to fit your criteria ( fastest closing time in prep race ) only you ignored a faster closing time. Not only that, you cherry picked derby results that fit your theory, while ignoring countless other years where the horse with the fastest closing time in a prep failed to win the derby.

well you seem to be reading a lot more into it than just a post comparing past derby winners and their final 3/8ths times to this years colts.
there is no theory
I simply read the list of this year colts that had closing times under 1:48 and type what i read.

[Secretriat34]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

I stated the point...he lost by a whisker at sa and came home faster in the final 3/8. The data you post is reverse engineering, taking a result ( ky derby ) and using a previous result ( sa derby ) to fit your criteria ( fastest closing time in prep race ) only you ignored a faster closing time. Not only that, you cherry picked derby results that fit your theory, while ignoring countless other years where the horse with the fastest closing time in a prep failed to win the derby.

maybe because i was concerned with colts that could WIN at 10f, not close fast and be slower than the winner