1/28 (GP): $12MM Pegasus World Cup

[Secretriat34]

lets type about money

all currency is in american dollars

WIN $7.00 million

PLACE $1.75 million

SHOW $1.00 million


4th a meager $250,000
5th a pitance $250,000

6 -12 $200,000

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In addition, slot holders will
receive 1/12th of the net revenue the race generates in
wagering, media rights, and sponsorships.

Although NBC will televise the Pegasus, channel 5.1 at 3:30 following figure skating 130 -330
The Stronach Group is paying for that air time, so no money will flow to the slot
holders from TV.

Slot holders also retain first preference for entering the 2018 edition of the Pegasus.

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by Secretriat34

lets type about money

all currency is in american dollars

WIN $7.00 million

PLACE $1.75 million

SHOW $1.00 million

4th a meager $250,000
5th a pitance $250,000

6 -12 $200,000

===============

In addition, slot holders will
receive 1/12th of the net revenue the race generates in
wagering, media rights, and sponsorships.

Although NBC will televise the Pegasus, channel 5.1 at 3:30 following figure skating 130 -330
The Stronach Group is paying for that air time, so no money will flow to the slot
holders from TV.

Slot holders also retain first preference for entering the 2018 edition of the Pegasus.

Again, I find myself being one of the nay-sayers when I see numbers like those from this posted. These purely business points that suggest that the Pegasus World Cup will not be a long term fixture.

[1] There appears to be absolutely no interest in broadcasting this race as it has very limited national appeal despite the Chrome vs. Arrogate rematch. We are one week out from the race and I have not seen anything on NBC or any other national network discussing the race. TVG has provided some coverage.

[2] According to what I read this morning, gate admission to Gulfstream is $100.00 per person on Pegasus day not to mention parking passes $50.00) and all of the other up-charges. What is the expected attendance for that type of gate charge? Will Gulfstream attract over or under 12,000 people for that kind of money? Personally, I would go under.

[3] If your entry finishes third or worse, completely possible given the field structure, how quickly are you ready to fire another speculative million at the pot for next year? (Maybe there are outfits lined up to kick in their $1,000,000? Who are they?)

[4] Wait until the post position draw this week. Put both Arrogate and Chrome in the ten, eleven, or twelve posts and your marquee match-up suddenly is upended. Worse, put only one of them in the outside slots.

[Kasept]

Baffert proclaims Arrogate ready for Pegasus World Cup
By Steve Andersen

ARCADIA, Calif.- For three consecutive weekends this month, Arrogate has worked prior to the first race at Santa Anita. With each workout, trainer Bob Baffert has expressed confidence Arrogate is on schedule for the $12 million Pegasus World Cup at Gulfstream Park on Jan. 28.

After Arrogate worked six furlongs in 1:12.13 at Santa Anita late Saturday morning, Baffert said the world-class 4-year-old colt is prepared for the world’s richest race. Recent wet weather in Southern California that has forced changes in Arrogate’s daily training schedule will not be an excuse.

“He’s ready for a challenge,” Baffert said. “He is so fit.”

The Pegasus World Cup is run at 1 1/8 miles. The race will be a rematch between Arrogate and California Chrome, the first two finishers in the Breeders’ Cup Classic at Santa Anita on Nov. 5.

Saturday, Arrogate worked on a sealed and sloppy track a day after Santa Anita sustained more than two inches of rain in the latest in a series of storms that have pummeled the region in recent weeks.

“I’ve been on pins and needles with this weather pattern,” Baffert said. “The track was in great shape for as wet as it was.”

Arrogate worked in company with his regular workout companion, the maiden Uninvited. Arrogate started eight lengths behind Uninvited, a margin quickly reduced to four lengths on the backstretch.

Arrogate ran the opening quarter-mile in 24.82 seconds and remained about four lengths behind Uninvited on the backstretch and around the turn, through a half-mile in 48.87. Arrogate was within two lengths of Uninvited a furlong before the wire and was in front of his stablemate at the wire, through six furlongs in 1:12.13.

“I didn’t want to go along too fast,” Baffert said. “We know he can close on a horse. He has the gears.”

Arrogate, who was ridden in the workout by jockey Martin Garcia, galloped out strongly, well in front of Uninvited, going seven furlongs in 1:24.33 and a mile in 1:38.82.

Earlier this month, Arrogate worked six furlongs in 1:11.80 on Jan. 8 and six furlongs in 1:12.20 on Jan. 15.

“He’s getting stronger every week,” Baffert said. “He’s maturing and getting better.”

Owned by Juddmonte Farms, the 4-year-old Arrogate has won 5 of 6 starts. He is unbeaten in two stakes, having won the Grade 1 Travers Stakes at Saratoga last August.

Mike Smith has the mount on Arrogate in the Pegasus World Cup.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

Again, I find myself being one of the nay-sayers when I see numbers like those from this posted. These purely business points that suggest that the Pegasus World Cup will not be a long term fixture.

[1] There appears to be absolutely no interest in broadcasting this race as it has very limited national appeal despite the Chrome vs. Arrogate rematch. We are one week out from the race and I have not seen anything on NBC or any other national network discussing the race. TVG has provided some coverage.

[2] According to what I read this morning, gate admission to Gulfstream is $100.00 per person on Pegasus day not to mention parking passes $50.00) and all of the other up-charges. What is the expected attendance for that type of gate charge? Will Gulfstream attract over or under 12,000 people for that kind of money? Personally, I would go under.

[3] If your entry finishes third or worse, completely possible given the field structure, how quickly are you ready to fire another speculative million at the pot for next year? (Maybe there are outfits lined up to kick in their $1,000,000? Who are they?)

[4] Wait until the post position draw this week. Put both Arrogate and Chrome in the ten, eleven, or twelve posts and your marquee match-up suddenly is upended. Worse, put only one of them in the outside slots.

I guess people are willing to pay those kind of prices for other sporting events or rock concerts but I agree with you and can't see them breaking the gates down to get in. Will be a lot of so called "celebs" attending on their free tickets.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Horrific draw for California Chrome. Going 9F at GP from the 12 hole is a death sentence. Tough break.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Horrific draw for California Chrome. Going 9F at GP from the 12 hole is a death sentence. Tough break.

Is this the excuse?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Is this the excuse?

It is a very real excuse....and exactly the one you would be using for Arrogate had the post positions been reversed.

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It is a very real excuse....and exactly the one you would be using for Arrogate had the post positions been reversed.

Completely agree, Andy, and exactly why I wanted this race to go at 10f (even close to 11f based on the track) to get rid of the post position bias.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It is a very real excuse....and exactly the one you would be using for Arrogate had the post positions been reversed.

Haven't needed an excuse for Arrogate yet and its highly unlikely I ever will. I was on him well before the Travers. Its not like he ran huge and I started to like him. I don't get you. On twitter you talk about Arrogate could be an all time great and you say things very similar to what I have said here multiple times about if Chrome couldn't beat him in the Classic w/ that setup he never will. Yet now your making excuses for the horse before the race.
When Chrome lost the Belmont didn't people say he didn't like being inside of horses. He ran better free and outside?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Is this the excuse?

It's a sad reality Joey.

[Kasept]

PEGASUS CUP CARD OVERNIGHT

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

Is this the excuse?

Stats don't lie. If it's not an issue then they should put 10lbs on Arrogate.

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by Pants II

Stats don't lie. If it's not an issue then they should put 10lbs on Arrogate.

Not a handicap race - my original point in this entire thread!

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

[4] Wait until the post position draw this week. Put both Arrogate and Chrome in the ten, eleven, or twelve posts and your marquee match-up suddenly is upended. Worse, put only one of them in the outside slots.

Well, look at this outcome. Can Chrome be any better than four or five wide in that first turn if pressing towards the top? Alternatively, can the horse close from ten lengths off the pace if they decide not to leave with him?