Classic Empire

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Not sure if there was some miscommunication with regards to working with blinkers, but Classic Empire did not have a published workout on 9/07 nor has he had one since.

Also, something left out of this surprisingly sober (for Freddy) discussion was that Classic Empire was noted to be lame when inspected following the incident (hence he was vanned off). He is currently on the NYRA Vet List (accessible on the NYRA website) listed as "unsound".

Curiously, runner-up Royal Copy also made the Vet List coming out of the race, listed as "injured". And Runway Lute fell past the wire, but was allowed to walk off and did not make the Vet List.

An "unusual" Hopeful as Larry Colmus said...

Can a horse be deemed as "unsound" because they refused to race/mental case? Or does it have to be physical ailments?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Can a horse be deemed as "unsound" because they refused to race/mental case? Or does it have to be physical ailments?

I presume its at the discretion of the examining veterinarian. Although such a horse as you describe would probably go on the Stewards or the Starters list before the Vet List.

Nevertheless , according to the DRF article on the race, the NYRA veterinarian said Classic Empire was showing lameness, so some sort of physical ailment was a factor.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I presume its at the discretion of the examining veterinarian. Although such a horse as you describe would probably go on the Stewards or the Starters list before the Vet List.

Nevertheless , according to the DRF article on the race, the NYRA veterinarian said Classic Empire was showing lameness, so some sort of physical ailment was a factor.

I dont know, but I heard with my own ear's Mark Casse suggest the colt was fine and had worked well. Perhaps he was confused with exactly which of his 300 head had just worked? I just dont know seems awfully particular

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I dont know, but I heard with my own ear's Mark Casse suggest the colt was fine and had worked well. Perhaps he was confused with exactly which of his 300 head had just worked? I just dont know seems awfully particular

Well a grand total of 13 horses had recorded workouts at Saratoga on September 7 so I guess its possible it was missed. Maybe all the clockers skipped town as soon as the meet was over.

[freddymo]

Maybe it was an unpublished ?
Classic Empire
Date
Track
Dist
Time
Surf
Cond.
B/H
Gate
06/19/2016 CD 5F :59.60 Dirt Fast B
06/25/2016 CD 4F :47.60 Dirt Fast B
07/22/2016 CD 4F :46.40 Dirt Fast B
08/04/2016 SAR 4F :49.56 Dirt Fast B
08/12/2016 SAR 5F 1:01.14 Dirt Fast B
08/19/2016 SAR 5F 1:00.98 Dirt Fast B
08/27/2016 SAR 4F :48.32 Dirt Fast B

[freddymo]

Per Norman Casse tweeter colt worked from gate in blinkers and he used the word great to describe it.