Obamacare Bleeding Out

[Pants II]

People who don't provide shouldn't reap the rewards of the working class.

It's not about wanting people to suffer simply for their situation but when they are already in that situation and you take more tax money from the middle class to provide more for the have nots after decades of the middle class being stagnant...well it's not fair.

Why give incentives to the group of the population that won't contribute? It's lunacy and long-term its suicidal.

This wasn't the only way to do it. It was an extreme way. A sadistic, slow way of implementing full blown government run health care.

Our future generations deserve better. Our best and brightest deserve to live and prosper in a society that isn't overrun with starving sociopaths who believe some invisible God told them to kill people who believe in "demons".

The ACA benefits those types more than the useful.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Pants II

People who don't provide shouldn't reap the rewards of the working class.

It's not about wanting people to suffer simply for their situation but when they are already in that situation and you take more tax money from the middle class to provide more for the have nots after decades of the middle class being stagnant...well it's not fair.

Why give incentives to the group of the population that won't contribute? It's lunacy and long-term its suicidal.

This wasn't the only way to do it. It was an extreme way. A sadistic, slow way of implementing full blown government run health care.

Our future generations deserve better. Our best and brightest deserve to live and prosper in a society that isn't overrun with starving sociopaths who believe some invisible God told them to kill people who believe in "demons".

The ACA benefits those types more than the useful.

I agree with most of what you are saying. I think you know my reasons for liking it as it has touched lots I know in the last couple years. I have seen people who got far into it much further than I could begin to help with because they were booted from insurance. There are too many parasites feeding off the system. You mention specialists leaving the field. I have several specialists I play golf with regularly and they have been complaining long before ACA that they were getting 10-20 cents on the dollar from insurance companies for procedures they used to get 100 cents for. Same for hospitals. It is only natural for them to jack up their rates so the 10% they are getting is close to what they once got. Meanwhile for profit insurance companies making record earnings year after year. In summary the process is broke and it has been broke for years. It isnt any more broke with ACA than it was.

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by jms62

I agree with most of what you are saying. I think you know my reasons for liking it as it has touched lots I know in the last couple years. I have seen people who got far into it much further than I could begin to help with because they were booted from insurance. There are too many parasites feeding off the system. You mention specialists leaving the field. I have several specialists I play golf with regularly and they have been complaining long before ACA that they were getting 10-20 cents on the dollar from insurance companies for procedures they used to get 100 cents for. Same for hospitals. It is only natural for them to jack up their rates so the 10% they are getting is close to what they once got. Meanwhile for profit insurance companies making record earnings year after year. In summary the process is broke and it has been broke for years. It isnt any more broke with ACA than it was.

Better regulations. Like making able-bodied Medicaid/Subsidized non-workers volunteer 50 hours a month of their time to local charities, homeless shelters, etc.

But then again that would be racist. The media would say as much because there's a far more sinister agenda going on.

[OldDog]

More regulations. That'll work.

Regulations have surged under this administration, this congress, faster than ever before. Over 170,000 pages now, more than double what it was 40 years ago. SBA says that compliance costs $1.7-$2Trillion a year. That's a giant sucking sound. More of this is precisely what we need.

Outta here.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

More regulations. That'll work.

Regulations have surged under this administration, this congress, faster than ever before. Over 170,000 pages now, more than double what it was 40 years ago. SBA says that compliance costs $1.7-$2Trillion a year. That's a giant sucking sound. More of this is precisely what we need.

Outta here.

Hopefully to learn some new tricks... It isn't 1976 any longer...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

More regulations. That'll work.

Regulations have surged under this administration, this congress, faster than ever before. Over 170,000 pages now, more than double what it was 40 years ago. SBA says that compliance costs $1.7-$2Trillion a year. That's a giant sucking sound. More of this is precisely what we need.

Outta here.

How is removing what was done a new regulation?


As for regs...
The Congressional Review Act (CRA) allows Congress 60 in-session days to review and possibly reject new federal regulations issued by the regulatory agencies.

Under the CRA, the regulatory agencies are required to submit all new rules the leaders of both the House and Senate. In addition, the General Accounting Office (GAO) provides to those congressional committees related to the new regulation, a detailed report on each new major rule.

Congressmembers probably too busy fundraising to look over such unimportant things.

[Crown@club]

They say you can keep your plan - You pay an arm and a leg.
They say you can keep your doctor - there went the other arm and leg.

Just going off, as I sign for a new plan and find a new doctor.