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Old 05-20-2016, 10:50 AM
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It's funny people can defend this crippling disaster known as Obamacare.

A family member last year spent 9 days in the hospital for merely hpb. One of the highest rated hospitals in the state makes numerous mistakes for hbp.

Just a stroke of bad luck, I guess. I'm sure others have had wonderbra experiences with aca and health care in general. If they're not subsidized I'd love to hear their stories.

Or crickets chirping. Either/Or.
Had someone close to me get cancer last year. Paid about a grand out of pocket and still has health insurance. Treatment was basically 9 months including surgery/chemo/radiation. All on Unsubsidized policy.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:00 AM
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That's wonderful.

I would just like for you to clarify that "guaranteed renewable" and "affordable care act" don't have to co-exist.

You see the latter is all about expanding the welfare state. You know about the debt. All of the guaranteed health coverage your heart desires isn't going to save you from less access and longer lines. It's coming.

Specialists are retiring at a rate that is unprecedented. Common sense would tell you that the "working" man's standard of care is going to be lowered. If the government is going to continue to use subsidies then it's natural that cash-strapped hospitals will choose those who are fully subsidized.

Oh well. It's all about screwing the flyover states. You know...rural folks.

Gotta get them all in cities. For some odd reason.

Just keep appeasing to the socialists, jms. We'll all be extinct soon enough. But at least you'll be right in the short term.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:05 AM
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That's wonderful.

I would just like for you to clarify that "guaranteed renewable" and "affordable care act" don't have to co-exist.

You see the latter is all about expanding the welfare state. You know about the debt. All of the guaranteed health coverage your heart desires isn't going to save you from less access and longer lines. It's coming.

Specialists are retiring at a rate that is unprecedented. Common sense would tell you that the "working" man's standard of care is going to be lowered. If the government is going to continue to use subsidies then it's natural that cash-strapped hospitals will choose those who are fully subsidized.

Oh well. It's all about screwing the flyover states. You know...rural folks.

Gotta get them all in cities. For some odd reason.

Just keep appeasing to the socialists, jms. We'll all be extinct soon enough. But at least you'll be right in the short term.
And when it doesn't happen "long term" we will all forget these posts were never written. Can't be wrong if you kick the decision point far enough down the road. The process was broke long before ACA at least now we are truly insured for catastrophic occurrences. See ya in the selections thread coach.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:11 AM
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And when it doesn't happen "long term" we will all forget these posts were never written. Can't be wrong if you kick the decision point far enough down the road. The process was broke long before ACA at least now we are truly insured for catastrophic occurrences. See ya in the selections thread coach.


You're a better handicapper no need to subtly brag.


I think that's cowardice which is why I used cowed.

Keep shilling for more big gov.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:23 AM
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You're a better handicapper no need to subtly brag.


I think that's cowardice which is why I used cowed.

Keep shilling for more big gov.
Dude there is no way I would imply this to anyone.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:32 AM
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Well you are.

But this is about Obamacare not horsies.

I'm a good handicapper on this stuff.



The ACA is Wal-Mart in Hospital form.

The flyovers are doomed, jms. Indiana, which is a traditionally great state for health care, just signed its death wish and increased MM payouts by $400,000 per case.

ACA was never about "guaranteed renewable". It was about the expansion of the Federal government and their ongoing manipulation of the population.

And attorneys. Can't let them slide if you're gonna throw Insurance CEO's under the bus. The sharks pushed this turd with gusto.
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Old 05-20-2016, 11:40 AM
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People who don't provide shouldn't reap the rewards of the working class.

It's not about wanting people to suffer simply for their situation but when they are already in that situation and you take more tax money from the middle class to provide more for the have nots after decades of the middle class being stagnant...well it's not fair.

Why give incentives to the group of the population that won't contribute? It's lunacy and long-term its suicidal.

This wasn't the only way to do it. It was an extreme way. A sadistic, slow way of implementing full blown government run health care.

Our future generations deserve better. Our best and brightest deserve to live and prosper in a society that isn't overrun with starving sociopaths who believe some invisible God told them to kill people who believe in "demons".

The ACA benefits those types more than the useful.
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