oh, the stupid...it hurts

[GenuineRisk]

“The Mirror Crack’d” was based on a true story. In 1943, Gene Tierney volunteered to help out at the Hollywood Canteen, a support-the-troops nightclub set up by people in the film industry. (This was after she made “Heaven Can Wait” and just before “Laura.”) Tierney, who was pregnant (the father was Oleg Cassini), came away infected with rubella. Her daughter, Daria, was born early and in bad shape—just over three pounds, deaf, with severe cataracts and brain damage. She never learned to speak. Sometime afterward, Tierney met a woman who said that she’d gone to the Hollywood Canteen that night despite being in quarantine with rubella. From Tierney’s website:

“Everyone told me I shouldn’t go,” the starstruck woman told Tierney years later at a tennis match, not realizing what she was responsible for, “but I just had to go. You were my favorite.”
Tierney didn’t kill her, but she did descend into years of depression. Daria was eventually institutionalized. (Howard Hughes paid many of her medical bills.)

This is from a New Yorker article about the incalculable damage Andrew Wakefield, ex MD has done since the late 1990s. This is why vaccination is not a personal choice; it's a public health issue. Because this is the kind of damage non-vaccinated people can do when they get infected.

[Danzig]

oh wow, that is awful. never heard that before.
whenever the topic comes up, I remember the story of typhoid mary. she eventually had to be forced into isolation, she refused to quit cooking for people even tho she knew full well she was spreading typhoid!
I know people want to be free to decide things...but my god, you're toying with your childrens lives people...because you believe a model over a doctor? baseless rumors over science?
I have no more respect for people who refuse vaccines based on bs than I do people who refuse to take their child to the doctor, because they're gonna pray to get the poor kid healed.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

oh wow, that is awful. never heard that before.
whenever the topic comes up, I remember the story of typhoid mary. she eventually had to be forced into isolation, she refused to quit cooking for people even tho she knew full well she was spreading typhoid!
I know people want to be free to decide things...but my god, you're toying with your childrens lives people...because you believe a model over a doctor? baseless rumors over science?
I have no more respect for people who refuse vaccines based on bs than I do people who refuse to take their child to the doctor, because they're gonna pray to get the poor kid healed.

This is the link to the New Yorker article:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-da...accine-follies

It concludes with the author talking about how, when she was pregnant, it was discovered that her rubella immunity had elapsed, but since she was pregnant, she couldn't be re-vaccinated. She spent the rest of her pregnancy terrified she'd come into contact with someone infected who didn't know they had it, or didn't feel sick enough to stay home. That's what gets me seeing red when people go, "Well, then just get yourself and your kids vaccinated and mind your own business!" Augh! That is not how vaccination works, folks!

If you can't claim religious exemptions for pooping on the sidewalk, you shouldn't be able to claim them for vaccinations. Both are about reducing threats to the public.

[Danzig]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/au...cine-myth.html

And this, which I find fascinating...

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...racy-theories/

Other factors are at work in creating a conspiratorial mind. Uscinski and Parent note that in laboratory experiments “researchers have found that inducing anxiety or loss of control triggers respondents to see nonexistent patterns and evoke conspiratorial explanations” and that in the real world “there is evidence that disasters (e.g., earthquakes) and other high-stress situations (e.g., job uncertainty) prompt people to concoct, embrace, and repeat conspiracy theories.”

So many issues that provoke argument are about just that...control.

[Danzig]

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor...to_attack.html

[Danzig]

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/carly-fio...aising-muslims

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[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/carly-fio...aising-muslims

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Oh, the GOP primaries, when candidates have to prove their xenophobic bona fides...