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Old 05-31-2015, 10:27 AM
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I can only speak for Chicago but the violence isn't a black-white issue at all. It's a gang problem nurtured and protected by black and latino political and community leaders crying racist every time police target them while crying for grants that are pocketed or wasted on useless programs like midnight basketball leagues. Police and those in the neighborhoods know who the gangbangers are and police don't target them because they're black or latino but because they're gangbangers. It's true there have been and are bad police officers but condemning an entire force based on the actions of few is akin to condemning all the residents of Englewood because the actions of a few gangbangers among them.

Rudeboy is correct though in that the poorest of the poor are the ones being hurt as they're the ones living in the neighborhoods amongst the gangbangers. And when you have a black President who lives less than a couple miles from the problem publically making statements condemning the actions of police anytime a black man dies while ignoring the dozens killed in his backyard every month there isn't much hope. When that is compounded by a black attorney general who doesn't hesitate filing RICO charges against biker gangs and an international soccer league but ignores inner-city gangs the hope dies completely.

Just as a lawn can't flourish with weeds a neighborhood can't with gangs.

Education is the fertilizer and seed to escape poverty but without accountability by teachers, administrators, students and parents it's like throwing the seed and fertilizer on concrete hoping grass will grow.
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Old 05-31-2015, 12:32 PM
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I can only speak for Chicago but the violence isn't a black-white issue at all. It's a gang problem nurtured and protected by black and latino political and community leaders crying racist every time police target them while crying for grants that are pocketed or wasted on useless programs like midnight basketball leagues. Police and those in the neighborhoods know who the gangbangers are and police don't target them because they're black or latino but because they're gangbangers. It's true there have been and are bad police officers but condemning an entire force based on the actions of few is akin to condemning all the residents of Englewood because the actions of a few gangbangers among them.

Rudeboy is correct though in that the poorest of the poor are the ones being hurt as they're the ones living in the neighborhoods amongst the gangbangers. And when you have a black President who lives less than a couple miles from the problem publically making statements condemning the actions of police anytime a black man dies while ignoring the dozens killed in his backyard every month there isn't much hope. When that is compounded by a black attorney general who doesn't hesitate filing RICO charges against biker gangs and an international soccer league but ignores inner-city gangs the hope dies completely.

Just as a lawn can't flourish with weeds a neighborhood can't with gangs.

Education is the fertilizer and seed to escape poverty but without accountability by teachers, administrators, students and parents it's like throwing the seed and fertilizer on concrete hoping grass will grow.
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Sadly, it doesn't seem as if much has changed for the better. I believe a report by the Police Superintendent claimed almost 50 firearms (didn't say what type) were seized in a city where that gang members face worse sanctions from their gangs for losing a gun than they do by the courts for illegally possessing one.

750+ murders so far but what is really alarming is the increase in shootings and shooting victims

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/2...as-in-chicago/


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[quote=casp0555;1083102]Sadly, it doesn't seem as if much has changed for the better. I believe a report by the Police Superintendent claimed almost 50 firearms (didn't say what type) were seized in a city where that gang members face worse sanctions from their gangs for losing a gun than they do by the courts for illegally possessing one.

750+ murders so far but what is really alarming is the increase in shootings and shooting victims

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/2...as-in-chicago/


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Sadly, it doesn't seem as if much has changed for the better. I believe a report by the Police Superintendent claimed almost 50 firearms (didn't say what type) were seized in a city where that gang members face worse sanctions from their gangs for losing a gun than they do by the courts for illegally possessing one.

750+ murders so far but what is really alarming is the increase in shootings and shooting victims

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/2...as-in-chicago/


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1. The labor participation rate is near a 40-year low and has been under 63 percent now for 33 consecutive months. And instead of putting people back to work, under this president, the number of Americans dependent on government is surging. A near record $45 million Americans currently receive food stamps. That is an increase of 42 percent since January 2009.

2. As for poverty, the president talks about helping every American get ahead, but this again has not been the case. Since 2008, the poverty rate has shot up 17 percent. 46 million Americans now live in poverty, and the dream of owning your own home has been made a nightmare under Obama for many Americans. The rate of those who own a home has now dropped several percentage points. Now, we also saw record numbers of foreclosures during his presidency. 2011 was the worst year on record for home sales.

3. Under the president, our national debt has reached very dangerous levels. In January 2009, when he took office, it stood at $10.6 trillion. Well, it's over $21 trillion today, a 100 percent increase. By the time he leaves the White House, he will accumulate more debt than every other president before him combined. And because of this massive accumulation of debt, for the first time ever, America's credit rating was downgraded.

If that isn't enough *Hope and Change* fpr ya, and for good measure: mix in wide open boarders, unfettered access by the drug cartels to set up shop and get a huge number of theses completely forgotten, disaffected souls addicted to heroin.

Now keep scratching your head trying to figure it all out.

Then ignore it because you don't want to face the facts, and blame guns.

And then wonder why you lost the Presidency, The House, The Senate, the majority of State Governors, and the majority of State representatives to the Republicans.

Trump, at the very least, has the balls to identify the issues and work with inner city community leaders to find ways to give them a hand up off the floor.

What ever he does, it will be miles ahead of what the prince of Chicago has done for his fair city in his 8 full years as our chief executive - rest assured.
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But it won't be enough, RBE. He's already submitting to the same folks who got us in this mess. And apparently the anti-white American narrative is in overdrive.

This is much bigger. It's about the survival of the white race. The sooner we all realize that then we can make real change. We're soon to be hunted like dogs otherwise.

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Old 12-26-2016, 05:04 PM
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And I'm going to say it right now...

if he panders to the inner cities and forgets about the heartland he will be a one term President and we'll probably end up with a complete full blown socialist minority President in 2020.

We're in big, big trouble long term. Mad Max style trouble. Look no further than South Africa. They're about ready to eradicate us down there.
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But it won't be enough, RBE. He's already submitting to the same folks who got us in this mess. And apparently the anti-white American narrative is in overdrive.

This is much bigger. It's about the survival of the white race. The sooner we all realize that then we can make real change. We're soon to be hunted like dogs otherwise.

Save this post for two decades and tell me I'm wrong.
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