Vote for your favorite Barry Irwin quote

[Fearless Leader]

And the nominees are :

"I'm tired of trainers lying to me"

"The classics are not a place for amateurs"

[Holland Hacker]

Originally Posted by Fearless Leader

And the nominees are :

"I'm tired of trainers lying to me"

"The classics are not a place for amateurs"

Can we add "We need to get the FBI involced in racing to clean up the game."?

[slotdirt]

Come on, Barry Irwin says better than this on his worst Tuesdays. I vote for "other."

[GenuineRisk]

I liked, "I'm still a former sportswriter."

[my miss storm cat]

Can it be about him instead?

#1 about 21 hours ago by Kelso

Any way the vets can head to Lexington and wire Barry Irwin's mouth shut while the stitches and scalpel are out?

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...ery-scheduled/

[MisterB]

I have to agree with him on one thing, Isn't he Perfect had no buisness in that race. For that, his quote makes sence.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MisterB

I have to agree with him on one thing, Isn't he Perfect had no buisness in that race. For that, his quote makes sence.

How do you propose keeping a horse like him out in the future? If we're going to exclude horses from running in stakes because they don't figure, our stakes are going to be even more watered down than they are now.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

How do you propose keeping a horse like him out in the future? If we're going to exclude horses from running in stakes because they don't figure, our stakes are going to be even more watered down than they are now.

His past performances where reason enough. If NYRA wasn't so worried about filling the race, then common sence by the stewards should have played some sort of a part. Horses like him do not belong in the big dance, not even close.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MisterB

His past performances where reason enough. If NYRA wasn't so worried about filling the race, then common sence by the stewards should have played some sort of a part. Horses like him do not belong in the big dance, not even close.

Some might think someone talking about others having common sense would actually have enough sense to know how to spell sense, but I digress.

I'm not saying Isn't He Perfect was a contender, but I know Irwin has started horses in Classics in the past that have had no chance. See Dr Greenfield in the 2001 Belmont, who held up the start and then never reached contention.

I'll ask again, how should the excluding process go?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MisterB

His past performances where reason enough. If NYRA wasn't so worried about filling the race, then common sence by the stewards should have played some sort of a part. Horses like him do not belong in the big dance, not even close.

Far more unlikely winners run in stakes races all over the country every single week. Frankly, his pps were not significantly worse than the winner's. I guess he should have been excluded as well. The winner lost to Congo on the Inner Track....at least Isn't He Perfect won a race or two on the Inner.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Some might think someone talking about others having common sense would actually have enough sense to know how to spell sense, but I digress.

I'm not saying Isn't He Perfect was a contender, but I know Irwin has started horses in Classics in the past that have had no chance. See Dr Greenfield in the 2001 Belmont, who held up the start and then never reached contention.

I'll ask again, how should the excluding process go?

I think the people who run the events can figure that out. My opinion means nothing. Maybe some Turf writers can comment on the how too's. I feel confident some may even agree with me.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MisterB

I think the people who run the events can figure that out. My opinion means nothing. Maybe some Turf writers can comment on the how too's. I feel confident some may even agree with me.

The people that ran the event did figure it out.

NYRA denied the entry of Nicky's Boy in the Wood last year. She had no business in the race and NYRA responded. A horse like Rick's Natural Star should never have been allowed to run in the BC Turf in 1996.

I don't see how this is even remotely close to that. The horse was 2 lengths behind the eventual winner earlier in the year and 6 lengths behind the runner up. Was he almost impossible to use...sure. But impossible to the point of what you and Irwin are suggesting...no way. Especially considering Irwin has started similar looking horses in Classics in the past.

[MisterB]

The horse didn't belong in a Million dollar race, maybe in some other stakes race around the country, but not in this one. That's where I stand on the horse. As it turned out, he looked the part too.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by MisterB

The horse didn't belong in a Million dollar race, maybe in some other stakes race around the country, but not in this one. That's where I stand on the horse. As it turned out, he looked the part too.

It's always easier to say that after the fact. The runner up didn't really look like he belonged after his last 2 either. Would you have excluded him also?

You have an opinion, but when questioned on what should be done, you took the easy way out. Typical.

[slotdirt]

Why even run the race if we're going to start excluding horses based on Barry Irwin's opinion? I'm sure there were a lot of people who thought Animal Kingdom didn't belong in the Derby in April.

[parsixfarms]

It was a cheap shot by Irwin because of who owned and trained the horse. Replace Saratoga Red for Isn't He Perfect, and I doubt Irwin would have made the same comment.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MisterB

I think the people who run the events can figure that out. My opinion means nothing. Maybe some Turf writers can comment on the how too's. I feel confident some may even agree with me.

Whose opinions should mean less than turf writers?

Drugs obviously excepted.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Whose opinions should mean less than turf writers?

Drugs obviously excepted.

Greg Ravioli.

[Danzig]

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