How's That Recovery Comin?

randallscott35 · #1 05-31-2011, 11:40 AM

Duh.

House prices find lower lows.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...425058088.html

Food stamp usage at all time highs.

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/defau...d%20Stamps.png

That's ok though. Obama likes Guinness. And the Bachelorette is on Mondays so we'll be ok. Hugs.

Antitrust32 · #2 05-31-2011, 12:39 PM

dont you understand that George Bush singlehandidly ruined the world and Obama has almost completely fixed it?

somerfrost · #3 05-31-2011, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

dont you understand that George Bush singlehandidly ruined the world and Obama has almost completely fixed it?

Do you understand that no single President is completely to blame and no single President is totally without fault? My problem with the "Obama hate" is that folks seem to think everything was fine until Obama took office. Feel lucky that you are locked into a political ideology that has a say in government, being a far leftist, all I get to do is sit and watch.

Antitrust32 · #4 05-31-2011, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Do you understand that no single President is completely to blame and no single President is totally without fault? My problem with the "Obama hate" is that folks seem to think everything was fine until Obama took office. Feel lucky that you are locked into a political ideology that has a say in government, being a far leftist, all I get to do is sit and watch.

I'm probably less locked into any certain political ideology than anyone who posts in this whole section.

But I have pretty easily come to the conclusion that Obama is just 4 more years of GW Bush.

and besides, the number one reason the economy collapsed is because the American people lived way outside their means. But nobody wants to take any personal responsibility, so it was Bushes fault.

Its not the person who bought a 400k house and could only afford a 150k house fault, its the bank's fault for providing the loan

Zero personal responsibility in this overly spoiled country that I love.

Riot · #5 05-31-2011, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

and besides, the number one reason the economy collapsed is because the American people lived way outside their means. But nobody wants to take any personal responsibility, so it was Bushes fault.

You might enjoy this book, you can get it for 10 bucks paperback on Amazon

Too Big to Fail: The Inside Story of How Wall Street and Washington Fought to Save the Financial System---and Themselves
Andrew Ross Sorkin

randallscott35 · #6 05-31-2011, 01:24 PM

No, but maybe continuing the failed policies of Bush and keeping people in positions of power and hiring an inept Eric Holder who has prosecuted no one and so on and so on should count for something....B/c of the importance of the times we live in, I can only say Obama is the single worst president in our history.

Riot · #7 05-31-2011, 01:30 PM

Here's an interactive map, from Moody Analytics, documenting the economic and recovery status of each state, and each major town with statistics

Shows the recovery is slow, but definitely doing well and improving.

Recovery Status Map - Tracking the business cycle across U.S. states and metropolitan areas.

http://www.economy.com/dismal/us-map/default.aspx

Having food stamps use high, when unemployment is high, isn't any great surprise. It shows we're helping people and keeping them from starving. That's a good thing. Not a bad thing.

randallscott35 · #8 05-31-2011, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot

Here's an interactive map, from Moody Analytics, documenting the economic and recovery status of each state, and each major town with statistics

Shows the recovery is slow, but definitely doing well and improving.

Recovery Status Map - Tracking the business cycle across U.S. states and metropolitan areas.

http://www.economy.com/dismal/us-map/default.aspx

You are on crack.

Riot · #9 05-31-2011, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35

You are on crack.

No, I just posted an ongoing detailed analysis of where a major financial outlet puts the nation regarding recession and recovery.

"Single worse President in history" - yeah, that's a logically-arrived upon conclusion. Who's on crack?

miraja2 · #10 05-31-2011, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35

B/c of the importance of the times we live in, I can only say Obama is the single worst president in our history.

I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

GBBob · #11 05-31-2011, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2

I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

There will be a lot of silence after that post..

It takes a while to find a Washington Times editorial on John Tyler

Danzig · #12 05-31-2011, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2

I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

andrew johnson was pretty bad, more recently i'd have to say carter. buchanan was a pathetic joke. then there's polk, who was suckered by santa anna in exile, helped him come back to mexico-which lead to the mexican/american war...

hi_im_god · #13 05-31-2011, 06:22 PM

harrison would be difficult to rank. maybe you need a seperate list of best and worst first 30 days of a presidency. that would be the only fair way to judge his month in office against the other's.

Danzig · #14 05-31-2011, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

harrison would be difficult to rank. maybe you need a seperate list of best and worst first 30 days of a presidency. that would be the only fair way to judge his month in office against the other's.

he wouldn't be on a worst list for sure...he didn't have enough time to really screw anything up.

randallscott35 · #15 05-31-2011, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2

I like the way that this post implies that you actually know something about about all the other presidents and at some point you decided....yep, Obama is now worse than James Buchanan or John Tyler, or Andrew Johnson....or whichever president you had last on your list before.
You don't like the guy. Fine. But this "worst president in our history" stuff is just nonsense. You are comparing him to people that I feel confident in guessing you don't know the first thing about.
Its not just you either. There are polls like this all the time and I always think they are stupid. Does comparing the John Adams administration to the Gerald Ford administration really make any sense whatsoever? There's no reasonable way to do it....or really a very good reason to do it.

Apparently you don't have a clue what I do for a living. Yes, we've had plenty of criminals who were presidents. Again, what you miss is the current importance of the time we live in.

randallscott35 · #16 05-31-2011, 06:42 PM

I didn't mean to get off topic. Let's get back to that rip roaring recovery we are having. The first is tomorrow so Wal Mart will be hopping at 12:01am when the Food stamp cards get their monthly limit.

GBBob · #17 05-31-2011, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Apparently you don't have a clue what I do for a living. Yes, we've had plenty of criminals who were presidents. Again, what you miss is the current importance of the time we live in.

And you obviously have no idea what Miraja2 does for a living. This time period is a pimple on the ass of our past.