Michelle Calls Barack a "Kenyan"

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm not sure saying that maybe the US isn't always right equals dissing his own country. I'm glad he "apoligized"..even though he didn't..for all the sh*t Bush did.

Im just saying what I have read on line concerning other world leaders, found it in very bad taste for him to go around the world saying crap about his own country ....say it from home amongst the homeys and it doesnt look as bad.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm not sure saying that maybe the US isn't always right equals dissing his own country. I'm glad he "apoligized"..even though he didn't..for all the sh*t Bush did.

Did Bush apologize for Bill not getting Bin Ladin while he could?????????? Nope dont think so.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

Im just saying what I have read on line concerning other wolrd leaders, found it in very bad taste for him to gio around the world saying crap about his own country ....say it from home amongst the homeys and it doesnt look as bad.

Honest Honu..I'm not sure where all these World leaders are who found it distasteful..unless Glenn Beck and Rush are World leaders. The US likes to think we are better than other countries and that's wrong. Bush ignored the World and World issues and Obama attempted to reconcile that and rightly so. The right would rather be isolationists and screw everyone else.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

Did Bush apologize for Bill not getting Bin Ladin while he could?????????? Nope dont think so.

For gods sake..Did Bush think Bin Laden was rooming with Hussein? He kinda' decided to go in that direction rather than pursue Bin Ladin..even after 9/11. We can go tit for tat here..

I have to sleep..night Honu

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Honu

He had a great smile and he sure made people feel at home.

cant argue that..

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Honest Honu..I'm not sure where all these World leaders are who found it distasteful..unless Glenn Beck and Rush are World leaders. The US likes to think we are better than other countries and that's wrong. Bush ignored the World and World issues and Obama attempted to reconcile that and rightly so. The right would rather be isolationists and screw everyone else.

Nah man didnt someone on here post something a few days ago or a week ago I forget cause the days all runs together when you get a day off every 30 days or so . I swear I read something, maybe Rupert posted it and everyone who loves Barry went nutz , ah dunno but I swear there are statements somewhere that people in charge of countries thought he was a dusch for saying bad stuff about us abroad.
Dude Ill admit Im tired worked my second job today so I have been up since 4 am and I might be delusional.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Honu

Nah man didnt someone on here post something a few days ago or a week ago I forget cause the days all runs together when you get a day off every 30 days or so . I swear I read something, maybe Rupert posted it and everyone who loves Barry went nutz , ah dunno but I swear there are statements somewhere that people in charge of countries thought he was a dusch for saying bad stuff about us abroad.
Dude Ill admit Im tired worked my second job today so I have been up since 4 am and I might be delusional.

Yes, I posted that article. The title was "World Sees Obama As Incompetent Amatuer".

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

I guess we'll see what happens in November. That article makes it sound like the Republicans are going to have huge gains in the House and Senate in the November elections. It said that it is possible that the Republicans could even gain control of both the House and Senate.

You say that the centrists may not support a Republican because they may feel he is too far to the right. I would argue that many of those centrists would not vote for Obama because they may now feel that he's too far to the left. We will see.

I assume you do realize that the Republicans will pick up seats in November. There is no doubt about that. The questions is how many seats.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...ics_And_Policy


POLITICSJUNE 23, 2010.

Confidence Waning in Obama, U.S. Outlook

By PETER WALLSTEN And ELIZA GRAY
Americans are more pessimistic about the state of the country and less confident in President Barack Obama's leadership than at any point since Mr. Obama entered the White House, according to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll.


Sixty-two percent of adults in the survey feel the country is on the wrong track, the highest level since before the 2008 election. Just one-third think the economy will get better over the next year, a 7-point drop from a month ago and the low point of Mr. Obama's tenure.

Amid anxiety over the nation's course, support for Mr. Obama and other incumbents is eroding. For the first time, more people disapprove of Mr. Obama's job performance than approve. And 57% of voters would prefer to elect a new person to Congress than re-elect their local representatives, the highest share in 18 years.



Support for Mr. Obama and his party is declining among centrist, independent voters. But, more ominous for the president, some in his base also are souring, with 17% of Democrats disapproving of Mr. Obama's job performance, the highest level of his presidency.

Riot with her fingers in her ears and YELLING, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm not sure saying that maybe the US isn't always right equals dissing his own country. I'm glad he "apoligized"..even though he didn't..for all the sh*t Bush did.

i read that other country's actually lost some respect for obama when he did just that. many societies feel it's in poor taste for one to bash one's own 'tribe', especially when doing so in front of another tribe. i'll try to find a link to that.

http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/m...d-amateur.html


and yes, this is the same article rupert had linked a few days back.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.
For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.
So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

that's still a win.....:



Forty-five percent prefer a GOP-controlled Congress after this year’s elections, compared with 43 percent who want a Democratic-controlled Congress.

This is the GOP’s second-straight lead on this generic-ballot question, which hasn’t occurred since 2002.

“The Republican Party has a major advantage in the fall, and this poll just reconfirms that,” says Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, who conducted this poll with GOP pollster Bill McInturff.

Moreover, 32 percent say their vote this November will be a signal of opposition to President Obama, versus 27 percent who say it will be a signal of support for him. That’s a reversal from January, when 37 percent said their vote would be in support for the president, while 27 percent said it would be in opposition.


then there's this:

The problem is worse in swing areas. Last week's National Public Radio (NPR) poll of the 60 Democratic House seats most at risk this year showed just 37% of voters in these districts agreed Mr. Obama's "economic policies helped avert an even worse crisis and are laying a foundation for our eventual economic recovery"; 57% believed they "have run up a record federal deficit while failing to end the recession or slow the record pace of job losses."

and:

Mr. Obama's failures mean he can't lift his party by campaigning. A Public Policy Poll earlier this month reported that 48% said an Obama endorsement would make them less likely to vote for the candidate receiving it, while only one-third said they would be more likely to vote for a candidate endorsed by the president.

Republicans jumped into the lead last November in Gallup's party generic ballot match-ups among all voters, and since March the GOP has led or been tied every single week except one. In the Rasmussen Poll's tracking among likely voters, Republicans have been ahead by an average of seven points, 44% to 37%, since March. This reflects a significant political development—independents breaking for the GOP.

Then there is the intensity gap, which is particularly important in midterms. In Gallup, 45% of Republicans are "very enthusiastic" about voting this fall versus 24% of Democrats. This staggering 22-point gap is the largest so far this election year. And in the NPR survey of 60 swing Democratic districts, 62% of Republicans rated their likelihood of voting as 10, the highest. Only 37% of Democrats were similarly excited.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.

I know you guys will hate me for saying this, but Newt and the GOP congress made Clinton's presidency. He was heading down the wrong path (like Obama) until the Midterm elections and the GOP took congress.. Clinton went along with their idea's like they were his own. He figured out the best way to govern was from the center.

Clinton did a good job fiscally.. and he got to ride the .com wave.. but he completely screwed us by doing absolutely nothing about bin Laden, eventhough bin Laden carried out many attacks on the US (not really on our soil - but USS Cole and Kenya Embassy bombing, and many others).

If Clinton hadnt been such a freeking pu$$y, he could have created much disruption for bin Laden and his gang before 9/11 to happen.

The only time he did anything about it is when his impeachment hearing was going, and most believed he did some bombing just to take attention off that.

Its still a sad thing when Clinton was the best Pres of the past 20 years. (Ronnie blew him outta the water as far as Presidents go, though)

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm not sure saying that maybe the US isn't always right equals dissing his own country. I'm glad he "apoligized"..even though he didn't..for all the sh*t Bush did.

it was disgusting. for all the good we've done for the world, all the $ we spend out of our own damn pockets for other countries.. and this guy thinks he should apologize for us? Damn disgusting and insulting to the American citizens and the people who have died for this country.

But besides that "apology tour", I believe he made the right choice in hiring Clinton as SOS and I think she's done a very good job.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Honest Honu..I'm not sure where all these World leaders are who found it distasteful..unless Glenn Beck and Rush are World leaders. The US likes to think we are better than other countries and that's wrong. Bush ignored the World and World issues and Obama attempted to reconcile that and rightly so. The right would rather be isolationists and screw everyone else.

that might be the most inaccurate statement I've ever heard on the DT site, and that's saying something.

Did you forget to eat your wheaties yesterday Bob?

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Its still a sad thing when Clinton was the best Pres of the past 20 years. (Ronnie blew him outta the water as far as Presidents go, though)

LMAO




Ah ... thanks ... REALLY needed a good belly laugh this morning.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

that might be the most inaccurate statement I've ever heard on the DT site, and that's saying something.

Did you forget to eat your wheaties yesterday Bob?

Generalization, yes..innacurate no. When I have time I'll find the DT threads about US only and f' the rest of the World.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

it was disgusting. for all the good we've done for the world, all the $ we spend out of our own damn pockets for other countries.. and this guy thinks he should apologize for us? Damn disgusting and insulting to the American citizens and the people who have died for this country.
But besides that "apology tour", I believe he made the right choice in hiring Clinton as SOS and I think she's done a very good job.

I think that's a bit dramatic Lori. Trying to make ammends with other countries has nothing to do with fallen war heroes. And I know a lot of American citizens who were very proud of what he did and felt a lot better about their country because of it.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

LMAO




Ah ... thanks ... REALLY needed a good belly laugh this morning.

considering it was you that replied.. it makes me feel much more confident in my opinion, Mr. "Goldielocks didnt want to try the beasts in the BCC"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I think that's a bit dramatic Lori. Trying to make ammends with other countries has nothing to do with fallen war heroes. And I know a lot of American citizens who were very proud of what he did and felt a lot better about their country because of it.

I dont know any who feel that way, except a handful of people on DT..

I felt extrememly insulted by that. There is no way an American president should apologize for this country.. the best country in the world. If he is sorry about it he has no right to be President.

And yes, it was an insult to the fallen patriots (IMO) especially the ones who have died fighting the war on terror.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Generalization, yes..innacurate no. When I have time I'll find the DT threads about US only and f' the rest of the World.

yeah, Nascar and Del are the norm in the republican party