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Old 02-09-2010, 06:19 AM
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Default Jayaramans end relationship with Ice; Summer Bird to Ritchey

Dr. and Mrs K.K. Jayaraman are ending their association with trainer Tim Ice, having removed their horses from his barn yesterday.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:01 AM
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:08 AM
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Dr. and Mrs K.K. Jayaraman are ending their association with trainer Tim Ice, having removed their horses from his barn yesterday.
Pletcher?
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:09 AM
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Pletcher?
or assmussen.....lol
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:14 AM
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Sorry to hear this. One year your on top of the world and next thing you know the world is on top of you. Good Luck Tim!
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:30 AM
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Dr. and Mrs K.K. Jayaraman are ending their association with trainer Tim Ice, having removed their horses from his barn yesterday.
Why?
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:26 AM
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Wonder if he still plans on coming to NY.
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:41 AM
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I noticed Repole moved several to Pletcher, hopefully they don't go that route too..

Tim did an excellent job with Summer Bird.
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Old 02-09-2010, 08:49 AM
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Pletcher is currently in The Empire Strikes Back mode
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:12 AM
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DRF:Summer Bird being moved to new barn
By Mary Rampellini

Trainer Tim Ice has been informed that he is being relieved of his duties as the trainer of champion Summer Bird as well as 24 other horses owned by K.K. and Vilasini Jayaraman. Ice, who is based at Oaklawn, said the loss of the horses will reduce his stable from 31 head to six.

It puts me almost out of business, Ice said.

K.K. Jayaraman said Tuesday morning he will be moving the horses, but a final decision on a new trainer has not yet been made.

I haven t decided anything yet, he said.

Ice said he believes a slow start to the meet, where he is 2 for 15, and a colt suffering a condylar fracture during a morning workout Sunday at Oaklawn led to the Jayaraman s decision. K.K. Jayaraman said there has been a breakdown in communication between he and Ice. Ice said he did not know where Summer Bird would be headed. Jayaraman, who has trained in the past himself, has had a number of trainers through the years.

I m just another trainer in a long line he s hired and fired, Ice said. But I do have empty stalls, and I m looking for new clients.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:16 AM
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the guy is a proven good trainer. i hope he gets some more clients soon.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:24 AM
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the guy is a proven good trainer. i hope he gets some more clients soon.
He is 35 had one year on his own and is a proven trainer? Why because he was lucky and got a G1 colt his first year? I don't know how good or not good he is but I know he isn't proven.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:25 AM
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Most of Jayaraman's horses seem to be home breds with very below average pedigrees. You would have to have some very special oats to be doing any better then Ice has been doing with those horses. Good Luck to Tim, I hope you bounce back on your feet.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:35 AM
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He is 35 had one year on his own and is a proven trainer? Why because he was lucky and got a G1 colt his first year? I don't know how good or not good he is but I know he isn't proven.

this could be a blessing in disguise

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Old 02-09-2010, 09:39 AM
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this could be a blessing in disguise

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Maybe certainly not ideal..I dont know the story but I wondering what the real deal is?
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:45 AM
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Maybe certainly not ideal..I dont know the story but I wondering what the real deal is?
exactly, you dont make the guy the money Ice made and then get thrown to the wolves like this without more
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:06 AM
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Doctors...two of them...retired with more money than sense and an air of entitlement which leads to meddlesome micromanagement. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
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tough game..
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:12 AM
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They have gone through alot of trainers over the last decade or so. I hope Ice lands on his feet. He's a good young trainer and he certainly gave up alot to handle Summer Bird as he did all last year. Remember, he went where the colt went and missed the birth of his first child because of it. It shows a dedication to the game and the horse.

I read that Tim Ritchey is getting SB. Honestly, it seems that these owners may be more trouble then they are worth for the "Big Name" guys to bother with. It's not like they have a plethora of fabulously bred young horses every year.
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Old 02-09-2010, 10:33 AM
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I hope he gets an owner or 2 that has patiemce and lets him do things his way instead of theirs.
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