Zenyatta

[freddymo]

Yeah Holy Bull who I loved has been a complete billy goat at stud and the Pleasant Tap 1 and 3/4 at the hurdle track in Va. is filling like mad

[The Indomitable DrugS]

the dam of Giacomo and Tiago also had a daughter of Sea Hero who was like 4th in the Breeders Cup Juvenile fillies the year Storm Flag Flying won it.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

the dam of Giacomo and Tiago also had a daughter of Sea Hero who was like 4th in the Breeders Cup Juvenile fillies the year Storm Flag Flying won it.

I could breed my tibetian terrier to Goulash or Hansili and and I would still get a stakes winner

Rumor is Jess Jackson is sending her to Frankel. So she'll scratch anyways.

[Split Rock]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't know.

Zenyatta sure did show Brownie Points who was boss in the Apple Blossom - and I certainly think she would have been beaten by that terrible Miss Isella horse who Borel got to beat a loose on the lead One Caroline with going 8.5f on a wet track.

I certainly like Rachel Alexandra a lot more of the two horses ... but I don't think she'll have a prayer on the Pro-Ride with Asmussen training her ... I'm playing her to finish off the board in that race.

I hope she dominates up to that point.

So a trainer trains differently for poly? Outright silly....

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Only to those who don't have a clue.

[KirisClown]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Yeah Holy Bull who I loved has been a complete billy goat at stud

That's a little harsh..

It could be A LOT worse... he could have Skip Away's stud record..

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Split Rock

So a trainer trains differently for poly? Outright silly....

You do have an advantage when you do train on poly,, tard

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The Breeders Cup Distaff can be outright conceded to her today.

Steve Asmussen's record on synthetic tracks is so bad it's scary .. and Rachel Alexandra has that good early speed which is a much more of an asset on dirt than on Pro-Ride.

The Distaff is now signed, sealed, and delivered to Zenyatta.

I thought you were getting at the fact that Rachel will be in the Classic...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't know.

Zenyatta sure did show Brownie Points who was boss in the Apple Blossom - and I certainly think she would have been beaten by that terrible Miss Isella horse who Borel got to beat a loose on the lead One Caroline with going 8.5f on a wet track.

I certainly like Rachel Alexandra a lot more of the two horses ... but I don't think she'll have a prayer on the Pro-Ride with Asmussen training her ... I'm playing her to finish off the board in that race.

I hope she dominates up to that point.

I hope she wins the preakness, belmont, test, travers, JCGC, the Carter and I hope Assman skips any breeders cup race because its on synthetics... sporting move last year to run curlin, but take THAT breeders cup and your stupid decision to run the championship races all on turf.

I also hope Quality Road, Dunkirk, IWR (if hes back), Fresian Fire.. and all the other top dirt horses skip the race and say shove it.

Lets have the championships settled at JCGC day at belmont...

[brockguy]

I'd give another chance to Cocoa Beach to beat Zenyatta

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by brockguy

I'd give another chance to Cocoa Beach to beat Zenyatta

On what surface?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It was a call that deserves no kudos ... just as calling Zenyatta the Distaff winner now deserves no kudos... and is only me just throwing something out there in case something goes wrong to give someone something to use against me at a later date.

Although - most people did believe that Stardom Bound was the most likely Oaks winner at the time - and even several weeks later - Justwhistledixie closed as the pool 3 favorite over Rachel Alexandra... but whatever.

No one thought SB was going to win the Oaks once she ran her first race this year, unless "most" means racing people with a clue using your nomenclature.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

She closed at 22/1 to win the Kentucky Derby after her first race back.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

She closed at 22/1 to win the Kentucky Derby after her first race back.

The money in those futures is smarter than the money on Derby day?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Much smarter.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

On what surface?

Turf, dirt, synthetics, broken glass

[Revidere]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I wouldn't breed a mare to him for free..Why waste a season he is a pig a flithy slow beast that made lucky people luckier.. I would rather breed to Santana Strings

So you're saying that handicapping a race to fall apart is luck? No offense to the "intelligent" people that lost that day, but anyone of those horses like Bellamy Road, and High Fly who raced near the lead had NO shot that day. I guess that it was luck that told me with High Limit, Flower Alley, Going Wild and Spanish Chestnut you were going to have a freak pace scenario. I've lost a helluva lot more times in this game than I've won, but I'll never apologize for that pick. It's amazing I've had to defend it for four years.

Call him filthy, call him a pig, call him a slow beast; but you must call him a Derby winner.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by brockguy

I'd give another chance to Cocoa Beach to beat Zenyatta

Is Music Note still in training, or did she retire?

[Star of the North]

I had the impression that Zenyatta was scratched out of the race last week following the announcement that the Breeders' Cup was staying at Santa Anita. The trip to race at Churchill looked like a scouting trip, didn't it?

Does it bother anyone else that she hasn't started yet this year?

Braving the certain derision to follow, does anybody think the other older, Grade I-winning filly in the Shirreffs barn might be the filly who pulls the upset in the Distaff come the fall?

Just wondering,

SOTN