Scat Daddy retired

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No one is saying that they should run the horse again. But the thinking that a psuedo good horse like Scat Daddy had accomplished so much to warrant early retirement if not injured is sad. I would not personally knock a person for selling a horse for profit because profits are so hard to come by in this business. But a horse like Scat Daddy's value wont go down if he loses a few races but it might have gone up he had won a legit fall stake. (not that I think he would have)

Take it easy on him.


He's a 2 year old.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The truth is, it actually makes real sense to retire him, as his resume is much better than his actual talent, and in all likelihood his value would only diminish by his racing in the future.

I guess it's easy for me to say because I certainly won't miss him....except to bet against him.

bingo, that is the heart of the matter. any further racing would likely diminish his status and since his status is now obviously inflated, why take the risk of racing.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

bingo, that is the heart of the matter. any further racing would likely diminish his status and since his status is now obviously inflated, why take the risk of racing.

OOOOOOOOOO

This is a business. You want to make money. Why run him if he is worth more in the shed and running him will not, as several on here have stated, make him worth more there. Those of us who love the sport, need to think more of the horse's well being, rather than our own pleasure. A good $5000 claiming race can be just exciting to watch as a $million GI, and you can usually make more $ betting on them.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

O 1/2

OOOOOOOOOO

[ArlJim78]

First Invasor, now Scat Daddy.

How many more of our heores will we see taken out of action?

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

OOOOOOOOOO

glad someone appreciated that....I know I did.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

glad someone appreciated that....I know I did.

Don't expect any adoration from me after that horrible cipher.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by mortyfeatherhands

Don't expect any adoration from me after that horrible cipher.

if you had paid closer attention to the cipher...you would have seen that it was the 3rd race so you should have bet for 3rd place.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The truth is, it actually makes real sense to retire him, as his resume is much better than his actual talent, and in all likelihood his value would only diminish by his racing in the future.

I guess it's easy for me to say because I certainly won't miss him....except to bet against him.

Agreed 100%. Why don't people think the connections may know this as well? Sure, maybe they are high on the horse, think he's still getting better, moving forward, etc. -- or maybe not.

In the "maximize value" world -- which is the world this industry is in today -- in a case like this it is often the default decision to retire the horse. Get used to it. Unless there is a drastic shift, it will be more and more common.

Eric

[ELA]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No one is saying that they should run the horse again. But the thinking that a psuedo good horse like Scat Daddy had accomplished so much to warrant early retirement if not injured is sad. I would not personally knock a person for selling a horse for profit because profits are so hard to come by in this business. But a horse like Scat Daddy's value wont go down if he loses a few races but it might have gone up he had won a legit fall stake. (not that I think he would have)

Chuck, I see your point, however, the downside with more than one loss is far greater than the upside of a win (which should almost be expected depending on the spot). Much of what will sell a horse like this at stud is the "hype" or the "what could have been" kind of thing.

Yes, it is sad -- very sad. I agree. However, he loses a couple of races, the reality of the situation is no longer hidden -- as it might be now to some people. Don't forget -- it's not you and me sending mares to this stud.

Eric

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

if you had paid closer attention to the cipher...you would have seen that it was the 3rd race so you should have bet for 3rd place.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Behooved of course

Quit putzing aound Hossy....I have work 4 u.





Sent ya a job ticket.

[MisterB]

Yea, the almighty dollar rules. Again, poor breeding headed to the shed row for the $$$$. A continued money making machine, that puts out panzy ponies.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I quit

!!



OOOOOOOOOO

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The truth is, it actually makes real sense to retire him, as his resume is much better than his actual talent, and in all likelihood his value would only diminish by his racing in the future.

I guess it's easy for me to say because I certainly won't miss him....except to bet against him.

exactly.

I was hoping to bet against this one this year which is my dissapointment in the news. Most of these are a bet-against at anything approaching a classic distance.

Maybe they think they are going to fool someone with his resume over his actual pedigree?
Hes not bad to breed with a solid mare if you want to compete in some ungraded stakes up to a mile and a sixteenth. Maybe breed with a turf mare and with good training, get a decent turf/poly miler for ungraded stakes level races. Thats about it.

His injury when they tried to push him to 9 furlongs and then 10 furlongs along with his need to train in bar shoes , should make him a real bargain.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No one is saying that they should run the horse again. But the thinking that a psuedo good horse like Scat Daddy had accomplished so much to warrant early retirement if not injured is sad. I would not personally knock a person for selling a horse for profit because profits are so hard to come by in this business. But a horse like Scat Daddy's value wont go down if he loses a few races but it might have gone up he had won a legit fall stake. (not that I think he would have)

Here's the thing I don't understand. If EVERYbody [you, me, the girl selling popcorn] knows he's kind of a phony, why don't those paying these exorbitant stud fees know it too? If he loses a couple more big time races, so what? But if he ends up winning them [not that he would anyways], it can only enhance his value.

Besides, at this point in the year they CAN wait the 90 days and see what happens. Breeding season is over you schmucks!!!!!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The truth is, it actually makes real sense to retire him, as his resume is much better than his actual talent, and in all likelihood his value would only diminish by his racing in the future.

I guess it's easy for me to say because I certainly won't miss him....except to bet against him.

Well, I'll miss him. I loved this horse.

Originally Posted by abe1947

This is a business. You want to make money. Why run him if he is worth more in the shed and running him will not, as several on here have stated, make him worth more there. Those of us who love the sport, need to think more of the horse's well being, rather than our own pleasure. A good $5000 claiming race can be just exciting to watch as a $million GI, and you can usually make more $ betting on them.

If you're in this sport to make money you might as well pay a guy to kick you in the balls on a daily basis.

[Riot]

Now let's speculate upon where Scat Daddy will ultimately stand, and what his stud fee will be.