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miraja2 06-25-2007 12:26 PM

Scat Daddy retired
 
Multiple-G1 winner Scat Daddy has been retired.
http://www.drf.com/news/article/86090.html

MisterB 06-25-2007 12:28 PM

Shocking;)

blackthroatedwind 06-25-2007 12:28 PM

Funny, I think I told someone last night he would never run again.

miraja2 06-25-2007 12:33 PM

The vet said the horse would need 90 days rest....so they figured they should just retire him. Wonderful. I thought that the conventional wisdom employed by many in this business today - including this colt's trainer - would say that a 90-day layoff would mean he would be nice and "fresh" for his next race.
Oh well, it wasn't exactly like I was eagerly awaiting his return.

Cannon Shell 06-25-2007 12:34 PM

"Our vets told us he would need 90 days rest, so we would have run out of time to get him back for the major races this year, and the decision was made to retire him to stud,'' Pletcher said.

In other words he was going to be retired at the end of the year anyway...

Buffymommy 06-25-2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
"Our vets told us he would need 90 days rest, so we would have run out of time to get him back for the major races this year, and the decision was made to retire him to stud,'' Pletcher said.

In other words he was going to be retired at the end of the year anyway...


That is how I read it.

Mortimer 06-25-2007 12:43 PM

THEBBY! :mad:

10 pnt move up 06-25-2007 12:44 PM

shocking, hope he goes to stud in Idaho.....

abe1947 06-25-2007 12:45 PM

So, you think an owner should run their horse until it breaks completely down? The horse is theirs to make money with. Would you continue running a horse that you could make millions on in the shed, just so the public could see him run. As soon as he lost a couple races his value and public appeal would drop, and those of you who what to see him run now would never bet on him again.:mad:

blackthroatedwind 06-25-2007 12:47 PM

The truth is, it actually makes real sense to retire him, as his resume is much better than his actual talent, and in all likelihood his value would only diminish by his racing in the future.

I guess it's easy for me to say because I certainly won't miss him....except to bet against him.

Late Fires 06-25-2007 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mortyfeatherhands
THEBBY! :mad:

A greater injustice I have never seen. It was fine work.

paisjpq 06-25-2007 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mortyfeatherhands
THEBBY! :mad:

weren't me hon.

paisjpq 06-25-2007 12:50 PM

I think I just heard Joel's gun go off...

miraja2 06-25-2007 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The truth is, it actually makes real sense to retire him, as his resume is much better than his actual talent, and in all likelihood his value would only diminish by his racing in the future.

I guess it's easy for me to say because I certainly won't miss him....except to bet against him.

I agree completely. He was a G1 and G2 winner at both 2 and 3.
That sounds really good, and the horse was certainly NOT really good.

Mortimer 06-25-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Late Fires
A greater injustice I have never seen. It was fine work.

You have always been my fav poster.


Too kind.

NTamm1215 06-25-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The truth is, it actually makes real sense to retire him, as his resume is much better than his actual talent, and in all likelihood his value would only diminish by his racing in the future.

I guess it's easy for me to say because I certainly won't miss him....except to bet against him.

Isn't that the truth. I was thinking about what will happen to Team Todd's pack of 3YOs as they begin their 2nd half of the 2007 season. Can we envision the same thing for Any Given Saturday and Circular Quay?

AGS has nothing on his resume right now, but I wonder if WinStar would be willing to take a Dwyer win, which is no foregone conclusion, and settle there. Obviously Cowtown Cat is going to make himself look worse as the year goes on and one has to wonder how much will go into this whole turf experiment with Circular Quay.

Team Todd- run the hair off them in the 2YO season, bring ill-prepared/exhausted horses to Triple Crown races, file excuses, then retire. Sorry folks, that's about the long and short of it with him.

NT

Mortimer 06-25-2007 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
weren't me hon.

Thank you Sweetie.

Mortimer 06-25-2007 12:53 PM

STEVIE! :mad:

miraja2 06-25-2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Isn't that the truth. I was thinking about what will happen to Team Todd's pack of 3YOs as they begin their 2nd half of the 2007 season. Can we envision the same thing for Any Given Saturday and Circular Quay?

AGS has nothing on his resume right now, but I wonder if WinStar would be willing to take a Dwyer win, which is no foregone conclusion, and settle there. Obviously Cowtown Cat is going to make himself look worse as the year goes on and one has to wonder how much will go into this whole turf experiment with Circular Quay.

Team Todd- run the hair off them in the 2YO season, bring ill-prepared/exhausted horses to Triple Crown races, file excuses, then retire. Sorry folks, that's about the long and short of it with him.

NT

As you mention, Any Given Saturday is in the opposite position of the accomplished Scat Daddy. AGS has yet to win a graded stakes race.
However, with his pedigree (by Distorted Humor and out of an AP Indy mare whose other foal became a graded stakes winner) it would probably take only one graded stakes victory for them to send him to the shed.

Cannon Shell 06-25-2007 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abe1947
So, you think an owner should run their horse until it breaks completely down? The horse is theirs to make money with. Would you continue running a horse that you could make millions on in the shed, just so the public could see him run. As soon as he lost a couple races his value and public appeal would drop, and those of you who what to see him run now would never bet on him again.:mad:

No one is saying that they should run the horse again. But the thinking that a psuedo good horse like Scat Daddy had accomplished so much to warrant early retirement if not injured is sad. I would not personally knock a person for selling a horse for profit because profits are so hard to come by in this business. But a horse like Scat Daddy's value wont go down if he loses a few races but it might have gone up he had won a legit fall stake. (not that I think he would have)


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