First couple weeks of Saratoga

[Seattleallstar]

with favorites not winning, and having a few prices in the first few days of the meet. Should we expect more formful results, or should I keep looking for the "value" horses.

[VOL JACK]

Any horse player should always be looking for the value in the race.

[Seattleallstar]

I look for winners if the favorite is who I like, there is no value in betting a value horse who doesnt win. I eat chalk and I swing for the fences. The price of a horse does not affect my handicapping or betting.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

The price of a horse does not affect my handicapping or betting.

Really?

[Rudeboyelvis]

Consider the source

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

with favorites not winning, and having a few prices in the first few days of the meet. Should we expect more formful results, or should I keep looking for the "value" horses.

On the turf, I would continue to look for horses that have shown speed.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Consider the source

4 cards.....32.5% of the post time favorites have won.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

4 cards.....32.5% of the post time favorites have won.

thats a pretty surprising percentage, thats about the right percentage for favorites winning at a track. It seems that they have had alot of nice prices come in. Some of which I have been the beneficiary of.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Really?

yeah what people bet doesnt affect a horses peformance, only time I will look at a price of a horse is in a maiden race, obv if a horse is taking the money its probably the goods.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Consider the source

I have been doing very well as of late, I tweaked a few things with my handicapping and have learned from mistakes in the past I refused to change. Learned a few things, dropped some bad habits/angles, and humbled myself to know I have alot to learn and I have done alot of foolish things. Two people have said insanity is when you do the same thing over and over hoping to achieve a different result. So I stopped what I have been doing over and over again. I have learned my lesson and adjusted, so far its paying off.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

thats a pretty surprising percentage, thats about the right percentage for favorites winning at a track. It seems that they have had alot of nice prices come in. Some of which I have been the beneficiary of.

This is an example of non-specific RDBRDNG.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

I have been doing very well as of late, I tweaked a few things with my handicapping and have learned from mistakes in the past I refused to change. Learned a few things, dropped some bad habits/angles, and humbled myself to know I have alot to learn and I have done alot of foolish things. Two people have said insanity is when you do the same thing over and over hoping to achieve a different result. So I stopped what I have been doing over and over again. I have learned my lesson and adjusted, so far its paying off.

This as well.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

This is an example of non-specific RDBRDNG.

geez what a tough crowd.

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

geez what a tough crowd.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

On the turf, I would continue to look for horses that have shown speed.

I wouldn't be so sure now that it finally got some rain.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

yeah what people bet doesnt affect a horses peformance, only time I will look at a price of a horse is in a maiden race, obv if a horse is taking the money its probably the goods.

I've never met a horseplayer who doesn't look at odds. That's a pretty damn ridiculous approach.

[Seattleallstar]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I've never met a horseplayer who doesn't look at odds. That's a pretty damn ridiculous approach.

I look at the odds when im done handicapping, and do put huge win bets on horses I really like whether it be even money or 20-1.

[dagolfer33]

I generally do things in reverse. I look at the huge payoffs from my huge win bets, subtract 2 or 3 or 4 zeros (depending how huge of a bet I made), then divide by 2 then subtract 1. Then I know what the horses odds were.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

I generally do things in reverse. I look at the huge payoffs from my huge win bets, subtract 2 or 3 or 4 zeros (depending how huge of a bet I made), then divide by 2 then subtract 1. Then I know what the horses odds were.

[analyizethis]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

4 cards.....32.5% of the post time favorites have won.

That's after Monday's sloppy results with scratch reduced fields (Four favories won nine races).

After Sunday the fav winning % was 29.03%