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Old 12-18-2018, 02:19 PM
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Upon further review I have downgraded Moretti. He was the lock of the decade, now he's the lock of the year. I have upgraded Lisbon. I had him as an X. Now he's a C, he has a chance to be a well beaten non threatening 2nd to Moretti.
If your last statement turns out to be accurate, then I suppose Lisbon will be the next Lock of the Decade because that's how I would describe Moretti's performance in his debut.

Perhaps it had to do with getting kickback and being positioned along the rail, but Moretti was asked at the 3/8s pole with little response and then came under heavy pressure (even struck with the whip a few times) before the 1/4 pole and basically had no acceleration. He plugged along to collar a couple of pace factors who faded late but made absolutely no impression on the winner.

Many a Medaglia D'Oro offspring appear to be similar one-paced types, so while the 9 furlongs is probably in his wheelhouse, the penchant for losing ground or position on the turns might be a disadvantage when stretching out to two turns for this race. Considering they paid $900K a few months before it was determined that half-brother Battle of Midway was a dud at stud, Moretti may turn out to be one over-priced flop without substantial improvement.

In addition, the winner (Bourbon War) was wheeled back in the Remsen and never got a call, so going beyond this maiden event on Thursday, Moretti will be hard pressed to be considered a potential Derby horse without a massive move up.

Meanwhile, I wouldn't endorse Lisbon to any great degree anyways as there's probably a reason he was trained for the turf rather than the dirt for his debut unless his connections are completely clueless.
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Old 12-20-2018, 11:12 PM
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This doesn’t rank as high on my “bad beat” list as Catholic Boy’s second win against Analyze It (not sure i’ll Ever fully get over that loss, I literally smelled the money as they were pulling into the stretch. Ughh), but Stilts getting beaten for 2nd today in this race totally blew me up. I went from looking like a SURE THING as Stilts (6) was making his run into the far turn, to ripping my hair out like Larry from The 3 Stooges once I realized the 2 came back and got way the best on the bob at the wire.

Big exacta = busted
Sizable (enough) tri = rip the proverbial ticket up
Super = likewise, although im an IDIOT for not keying 3 slots, esp knowing Erlich would fade away like Hakeem The Dream but was likely to still hang on for a slice.

In summation, i STINK as a bettor. Couldn’t have handicapped the race any better, but have bupkus to show for it. It’s almost as if I watched the race before I was allowed to bet on it, but STILL managed to screw it up bigtime!

Even if you don’t earn, you learn! Today, well, it was a learning experience. A big one! And I’m betting big money moving forward, as I’m seeing things more clearly. I’m in my zone, with or without my $50 bet yesterday on Dealer Queen High at Pai Gow! My favorite bet in the casino! 50-1 odds. Walked into Sugarhouse with $295, after Tacconelli’s and a smoothie next door I had about $270+ to play with but only put $250 on the table. Won the first hand for $80 bc I lost $20 on Queen high. Pushed the second hand. Won the third with a flush ($20 on dynasty bonus too), THEN on the fourth hand is when I struck hard. Would’ve won the hand outright too but they don’t pay out winners when someone hits Queen high on the dealer. I hit for $2500. Gave the dealer John a nice buck and a half, played $200 on the next hand and lost bc my dumbass don’t split pairs. Called it a DAY! That was up until I walked past the new “sportsbook”. Placed $30 worth of bets just to say that I bet sports legally in Philly and headed back to the office! Not a bad hour between settlements!

STRIKE OFTEN AND STRIKE BIG! We only have one life to live! LIVE THAT $HIT!




P.S. sorry for the rant! Just an example of how you can ride the high wave one day, only to lose a nice portion of it back after being nosed out of another great
day the next! The life we’ve chose !!
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Old 01-18-2019, 09:28 PM
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Lock of the decade.
Despite the horse validating your opinion last month at Aqueduct, you've chosen to abandon Moretti in favor of a horse trained by Derby-challenged Bill Mott. However, I can't really say I blame you when the people in control of Moretti consist of deep thinkers like this, spewing unfiltered filth for all to see:

“Medaglia d'Oro is a world-class stallion and being a half-brother to Battle of Midway, he has a real stallion's pedigree and that's what we're always looking for, hoping to develop horses to a stud career,” said Pletcher.

In case you missed it...

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...ed-to-training
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:33 AM
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[quote=RolloTomasi;1120630]Despite the horse validating your opinion last month at Aqueduct, you've chosen to abandon Moretti in favor of a horse trained by Derby-challenged Bill Mott. However, I can't really say I blame you when the people in control of Moretti consist of deep thinkers like this, spewing unfiltered filth for all to see:

“Medaglia d'Oro is a world-class stallion and being a half-brother to Battle of Midway, he has a real stallion's pedigree and that's what we're always looking for, hoping to develop horses to a stud career,” said Pletcher.

In case you missed it...

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...ed-to-training[/QUOTE


I still like Moretti. But he gives me a big Vino Rosso feeling. Dont like that.
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Hidden Scroll ...... MUCH the best! gotta those Hard Spun offspring
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