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Old 11-25-2006, 10:09 PM
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Thumbs up Fastest horse ever!

No Doubt! The only way to beat this horse is to put 150lbs on him. The weight in the Cigar Mile was total bull. A 3yo that is a Gr 3 winner gives pounds to last years BC Sprint winner and a G1 winner this year plus they gave him a 2lb break cause he was a 3yo. If Frankel trained the horse he would of scratched him.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:13 PM
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No Doubt! The only way to beat this horse is to put 150lbs on him. The weight in the Cigar Mile was total bull. A 3yo that is a Gr 3 winner gives pounds to last years BC Sprint winner and a G1 winner this year plus they gave him a 2lb break cause he was a 3yo. If Frankel trained the horse he would of scratched him.

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Now maybe you understand the point of what I said.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:17 PM
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Randall,
Now maybe you understand the point of what I said.
God Oracle you're annoying sometimes. This guy doesn't speak for me. I can't control what these people say. What a stupid example of trying to prove your point.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:30 PM
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God Oracle you're annoying sometimes. This guy doesn't speak for me. I can't control what these people say. What a stupid example of trying to prove your point.
As are you Randall.
My point was that so many are using the raw time as a basis when the raw time was obviously a function of the track surface.
Talk about his ease in winning, the gears he showed, that he beat a decent(if small) field.
But the minute the 3rd race was over today, the odds on a sub 1:33 mile were 2-5.
Its my whole point, and I don't think a difficult one to grasp.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:18 PM
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Randall,
Now maybe you understand the point of what I said.
Common I got to be bias look at my name. It would be like selling fords and driving a chevy. I been on this horses wagon for a longtime. I just don't think people want to see a super horse come from godophin, and that has alot to do with peoples negative remarks about this horse. I am not talking about you Oracle I know that your not knocking him but just trying to convey the times on the undercard.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:32 PM
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Common I got to be bias look at my name. It would be like selling fords and driving a chevy. I been on this horses wagon for a longtime. I just don't think people want to see a super horse come from godophin, and that has alot to do with peoples negative remarks about this horse. I am not talking about you Oracle I know that your not knocking him but just trying to convey the times on the undercard.

lmao,
ppl are past the whole godolphin thing at this point.
they have been involved in racing for far too long for the racing public to ignore one of their horses b/c of the ownership.

hes not the fastest horse ever though.
got a lot of running to do to obtain that title pal.



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Old 11-25-2006, 10:45 PM
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lmao,
ppl are past the whole godolphin thing at this point.
they have been involved in racing for far too long for the racing public to ignore one of their horses b/c of the ownership.

hes not the fastest horse ever though.
got a lot of running to do to obtain that title pal.



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Yea your right, good thing Gomez didn't bust the whip on his a s s and break the world record.
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Old 11-26-2006, 08:23 AM
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Yea your right, good thing Gomez didn't bust the whip on his a s s and break the world record.
you are aware that dr fager smashed the world record while his jock sat on him like a statue the entire race, aren't you? if you think a midget hitting a horse with a stick translates into far faster times, you might want to find a new sport to follow...
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:45 PM
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He ran before my time but you guys forgot about a horse named Dr.Fager.
Discreet Cat might be our Dr. Fager but legend has it that the old Dr. was very fast and he performed over multiple racetracks.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:51 PM
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He ran before my time but you guys forgot about a horse named Dr.Fager.
Discreet Cat might be our Dr. Fager but legend has it that the old Dr. was very fast and he performed over multiple racetracks.
lol
yeah legend was right.

like I said, DCat has a lot of running to do before he is mentioned with the horses we generally think of as the fastest like Dr Fager, Coaltown and Tom Fool.

hell,
he has a lot to do until he is in Ghostzapper's league.


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Old 11-25-2006, 10:53 PM
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lol
yeah legend was right.

like I said, DCat has a lot of running to do before he is mentioned with the horses we generally think of as the fastest like Dr Fager, Coaltown and Tom Fool.

hell,
he has a lot to do until he is in Ghostzapper's league.


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What made Gzap so unique was his ability to run huge at so many distances. He was a true every distance horse. He could've won a Grade I at any distance. Remarkable horse....Wanted to see some Turf with him.
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:56 PM
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What made Gzap so unique was his ability to run huge at so many distances. He was a true every distance horse. He could've won a Grade I at any distance. Remarkable horse....Wanted to see some Turf with him.

yeah,
and I guess he actually did win a G1 at every important distance
6f(well, 6.5), 8, and 10f.

that spectrum about covers it all.

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Old 11-25-2006, 10:57 PM
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hell DC still as to a bit more to be in Dubai Millennium air
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:59 PM
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yeah,
and I guess he actually did win a G1 at every important distance
6f(well, 6.5), 8, and 10f.

that spectrum about covers it all.

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In the other thread i put GZ is the only horse that might of been able to keep up with DC. But if Castellano decided to pull the trigger too soon and start waving his finger 50 yards from the wire he wouldn't have a chance
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Old 11-25-2006, 10:58 PM
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Who cares how fast he is. I never understood this point. If a horse wins wins wins and wins Graded races then who cares what his times are. Cat beat a very decent field today. Granted that Silver Train is not what he used to be and BOS was racing for only the 2nd time in 11 months. But they are Grade I winners so u can say he beat Grade winners.

THe weight issue wasnt all that big of a deal. I dont think a 3 year old should ever give weight to an older grade I winner. But it wasnt like he was giving 15 lbs.
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Old 11-25-2006, 11:07 PM
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Who cares how fast he is. I never understood this point. If a horse wins wins wins and wins Graded races then who cares what his times are. Cat beat a very decent field today. Granted that Silver Train is not what he used to be and BOS was racing for only the 2nd time in 11 months. But they are Grade I winners so u can say he beat Grade winners.

THe weight issue wasnt all that big of a deal. I dont think a 3 year old should ever give weight to an older grade I winner. But it wasnt like he was giving 15 lbs.
I think Silver Train ran a Grade 1 winning race today. Unfortunately he faced DIscreet Cat who is a better horse.
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Old 11-25-2006, 11:09 PM
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I think Silver Train ran a Grade 1 winning race today. Unfortunately he faced DIscreet Cat who is a better horse.
BOS and ST ran Grade I races today. They ran very good. But Cat is just better.
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Old 11-25-2006, 11:10 PM
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I think Silver Train ran a Grade 1 winning race today. Unfortunately he faced DIscreet Cat who is a better horse.
I agree. Silver Train took on Discreet Cat in the fastest part of the race and ran probably as well as he ever has. Badge of Silver, who one has to give credit for coming back from the dead many times, was a very lucky second.
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:47 AM
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Who cares how fast he is. I never understood this point. If a horse wins wins wins and wins Graded races then who cares what his times are.
Absolutely. Let's burn all clocks and just call them all winners. That's genius.
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Old 11-26-2006, 03:32 PM
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Now that's the first intelligent post you've made..............
Nice. I'm still waiting on yours.

Seriously, is there anything that makes you feel more correct than having Dixie disagree with you?
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