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Old 08-07-2015, 09:18 AM
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Grenning reporting he has done enough.. Stand by for stallion announcement with baited breathe. That Florida Derby was SOOO FAST.. Yeah right
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Old 08-07-2015, 10:13 AM
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Grenning reporting he has done enough.. Stand by for stallion announcement with baited breathe. That Florida Derby was SOOO FAST.. Yeah right
I didn't realize he was done racing?
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Old 08-07-2015, 10:19 AM
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David Grening ‏@DRFGrening 1h1 hour ago
G1 Florida Derby winner Materiality has been retired due to soft tissue injury sustained while training, per his connections.
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Old 08-07-2015, 10:34 AM
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Arrogate is the best horse since The Bid, and The Bid was better than Secretariat!!!!
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Old 08-07-2015, 11:09 AM
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Old 08-07-2015, 08:27 PM
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FASTEST 3-YEAR-OLD in America baby! Faster than American Pharoah...How could you not send your mare to him?

Florida Derby figures are solid as a rock! Upstart has them validated.
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:29 AM
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Grenning reporting he has done enough.. Stand by for stallion announcement with baited breathe. That Florida Derby was SOOO FAST.. Yeah right
Sweet Lord, Fred.

What? A premature retirement is proof that the Florida Derby wasn't a fast race?

You're actually being pretty disingenuous given some of your other posts, especially during the Belmont Stakes, where there was a few posts predicting this exact thing (Materiality being toast).

I suppose when Violette fries Upstart for good (probably next out), that colt's previous races will also cease to be fast.
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:13 AM
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Sweet Lord, Fred.

What? A premature retirement is proof that the Florida Derby wasn't a fast race?

You're actually being pretty disingenuous given some of your other posts, especially during the Belmont Stakes, where there was a few posts predicting this exact thing (Materiality being toast).

I suppose when Violette fries Upstart for good (probably next out), that colt's previous races will also cease to be fast.
Not proof simply anecdotal. Case could be made that it was too fast to soon and fried them.

The real shame is this colt had real talent and IMO could have been a super nice type. Also could have tripped in a paddock as well?
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