Prominent horse owners vow to run 2-year-olds without race-day drugs

[Riot]

Prominent horse owners vow to run 2-year-olds without race-day drugs

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...VwW_story.html

The group, featuring a stable of well-known names in horse ownership and breeding circles, vowed to compete in this year’s 2-year-old season without race-day use of the commonly used anti-bleeding drug furosemide, which is marketed as Lasix and Salix. It’s the only medication allowed to be given to horses on race day in the U.S. The drug is used commonly to treat pulmonary hemorrhaging in racehorses.

The list of owners taking the pledge was released Thursday by the Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders Association, a national trade organization based in Lexington, Ky. The list included nearly 40 owners and racing stables.

List includes Barry Irwin, Roy Jackson, Arthur Hancock, Will Farish, Seth Hancock.

Yay! Increase in EIPH! I can't wait.

[Indian Charlie]

Yay, healthier horses!

I can't wait!

I also can't wait for Riot to stop being such an obvious shill.

Yay!!

Yay, another morally superior post from Riot!!

Yay!

Yay, better living through drugs!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yay, healthier horses!

I can't wait!

I also can't wait for Riot to stop being such an obvious shill.

Yay!!

Yay, another morally superior post from Riot!!

Yay!

Yay, better living through drugs!!

Not treating horses for EIPH is like not treating asthma in humans. EIPH isn't a disease caused by racing. It's a disease of all horses in all sports. Ignoring a disease and not treating it doesn't make the disease go away. It doesn't make for "healthier" people. Or horses. It makes for more suffering and affected, increasing morbidity and mortality.

Any horse retired from the track because of excessive EIPH causing lung damage can go right to the breeding barn, there is zero to physically decrease their ability to breed, other than a race record.

Not rocket science. Just basic science. And the last thing we need is more science deniers in this world.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not treating horses for EIPH is like not treating asthma in humans. EIPH isn't a disease caused by racing. It's a disease of all horses in all sports. Ignoring a disease and not treating it doesn't make the disease go away. It doesn't make for "healthier" people. Or horses. It makes for more suffering and affected, increasing morbidity and mortality.

Any horse retired from the track because of excessive EIPH causing lung damage can go right to the breeding barn, there is zero to physically decrease their ability to breed, other than a race record.

Not rocket science. Just basic science. And the last thing we need is more science deniers in this world.

All those sick diseased horses around the world seem fine

[Riot]

Originally Posted by freddymo

All those sick diseased horses around the world seem fine

Only if you ignore the incidence of EIPH in American (allows lasix) and non-American racing jurisdictions. And the results in the progeny of American sires used as shuttle stallions.

Focusing on lasix as a major problem in horse racing is a sham, and an idiocy.

[OTM Al]

When I saw this all I could wonder is if they would all be wearing promise rings...

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by freddymo

All those sick diseased horses around the world seem fine

Originally Posted by Riot

Only if you ignore the incidence of EIPH in American (allows lasix) and non-American racing jurisdictions. And the results in the progeny of American sires used as shuttle stallions.

Focusing on lasix as a major problem in horse racing is a sham, and an idiocy.

So, are you really saying that if you ignore bleeders vs non bleeders, than your entire argument finally holds merit?

How much do you get paid to post here and on other boards?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not treating horses for EIPH is like not treating asthma in humans. EIPH isn't a disease caused by racing. It's a disease of all horses in all sports. Ignoring a disease and not treating it doesn't make the disease go away. It doesn't make for "healthier" people. Or horses. It makes for more suffering and affected, increasing morbidity and mortality.

Any horse retired from the track because of excessive EIPH causing lung damage can go right to the breeding barn, there is zero to physically decrease their ability to breed, other than a race record.

Not rocket science. Just basic science. And the last thing we need is more science deniers in this world.

Just as all humans don't have asthma, all horses don't suffer from EIPH. There are also different levels of bleeding, but hey, just drug em all. I guess I'll start using my son's inhaler...just in case.

Freddy, I have tons of Percocet laying around and an unfilled prescription, should I fill it for you just in case you feel some pain?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Just as all humans don't have asthma, all horses don't suffer from EIPH. There are also different levels of bleeding, but hey, just drug em all. I guess I'll start using my son's inhaler...just in case.

Freddy, I have tons of Percocet laying around and an unfilled prescription, should I fill it for you just in case you feel some pain?

Are you in favor or against withholding a therapeutic medication proven to decrease the incidence and severity of EIPH in horses with evidence of EIPH? A yes or no will suffice.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Riot

Are you in favor or against withholding a therapeutic medication proven to decrease the incidence and severity of EIPH in horses with evidence of EIPH? A yes or no will suffice.

It depends on what you call evidence.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Just as all humans don't have asthma, all horses don't suffer from EIPH. There are also different levels of bleeding, but hey, just drug em all. I guess I'll start using my son's inhaler...just in case.

Freddy, I have tons of Percocet laying around and an unfilled prescription, should I fill it for you just in case you feel some pain?

ABSOLUTELY