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Old 09-14-2006, 08:17 PM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?s...yhoo&type=lgns

I knew it and said last year that he and Leinhart were being paid. Hope they strip the title they won.
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Old 09-15-2006, 01:53 AM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?s...yhoo&type=lgns

I knew it and said last year that he and Leinhart were being paid. Hope they strip the title they won.
Wow! That is incredible. I can't belive the Heisman Trophy winner may have gotten some perks while he was in college. I'm sure that's never happened before. I'm sure that's not the norm. LOL.
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Old 09-15-2006, 06:36 AM
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The reason that the filth were able to contend last year was because enough money was given to those guys to keep em there and extra year and not go pro.
Perks are one thing, giving a kid and his family that kinda dough is another. I'd really like to get a look at Leinhart's lifestyle last year as well. Kid passes up being number one in the draft to stick around because "hes enjoying campus life?" yeah, ok, sure.
The best part is that the filth still lost. And the title they did win is going bye bye. Oh, and Vince Young gets the Heisman he deserves when Bush is stripped.
See! There is justice in the world!!!
But please don't try and tell me that "the genius" Pete Carroll didn't know about all this.
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:24 AM
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Should Bush be forced to give his Heisman to Vince Young?
They made "Juice" liquidate his Heisman, and OJ deserved his!
I'd like to know what grade Leinart made in his lone class, Dancing 101
really you should have to be a full-time student to play (IMO)
he probably wanted to be on that show, "Dancing with the Stars"
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Old 09-15-2006, 07:59 AM
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The reason that the filth were able to contend last year was because enough money was given to those guys to keep em there and extra year and not go pro.
Perks are one thing, giving a kid and his family that kinda dough is another. I'd really like to get a look at Leinhart's lifestyle last year as well. Kid passes up being number one in the draft to stick around because "hes enjoying campus life?" yeah, ok, sure.
The best part is that the filth still lost. And the title they did win is going bye bye. Oh, and Vince Young gets the Heisman he deserves when Bush is stripped.
See! There is justice in the world!!!
But please don't try and tell me that "the genius" Pete Carroll didn't know about all this.
I think Leinart is from a wealthy family. I believe they live down in Orange County or possibly Laguna.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:16 AM
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I think Leinart is from a wealthy family. I believe they live down in Orange County or possibly Laguna.
Don't mess with the man's wet dream.
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:34 AM
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The reason that the filth were able to contend last year was because enough money was given to those guys to keep em there and extra year and not go pro.
Perks are one thing, giving a kid and his family that kinda dough is another. I'd really like to get a look at Leinhart's lifestyle last year as well. Kid passes up being number one in the draft to stick around because "hes enjoying campus life?" yeah, ok, sure.
The best part is that the filth still lost. And the title they did win is going bye bye. Oh, and Vince Young gets the Heisman he deserves when Bush is stripped.
See! There is justice in the world!!!
But please don't try and tell me that "the genius" Pete Carroll didn't know about all this.
Mike, if you were getting the kind of tang that Leinart was getting, you would have stayed also, I don't know a man that would pass up a different girl every night if he were single.

Leinart's family is loaded, his old man paid for his living expenses and had like five of the players live there with him, and pay rent(just another way around the system)
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:53 AM
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So now it's zero championships in the last 3 yrs for USC....give em the same death penalty they gave to SMU back in the 80's....

every kid in the world wants to go to USC....this might just change things.
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:17 PM
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Mike you know I just have to dig you on this one I played major college football and everyone is doing it,, sounds like sour grapes from a Notre Dame fan simple as that and please dont make me go into my tirade about Lou Hotz who cheated at every stop in his coaching career it started with Arkansas, ND, Minn. SC the only place he didnt cheat was William and Mary and the Jets because either they would'nt allow it or he didnt have to I bet he wished he was able to cheat when he was with the Jets because that team stunk!! I agree with one of my most admired coaches for my money Dr. Tom Osborne who throughout his time at Nebraska advocated paying the players some money so that everyone didnt have to cheat to keep up...... just one man's opinions but dont give me that Holier then thou crap from a Notre Dame fan.
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:25 AM
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You mean to tell me that star college athletes get paid on the side? Ridiculous. I've never heard of this before. I, for one, am outraged and in fact not biased!!
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Old 09-14-2006, 08:24 PM
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Cheating filth on the field and off the field.
How about that "genius" Pete carroll and the great program he runs huh?
You telling me he had no idea the kid was living in a mansion last year? Are you ****ing serious?
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:24 PM
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If they started witch hunting and wanted to strip titles away for violations in NCAA sports, there probably would be few banners left over the last forty years.

Are we going to go back strip UCLA of all of the titles Wooden won while he was there?

Are we going to strip the Canes of all of those titles?

How about Notre Dame? Are we going to strip them of the title they won during the Holtz years?

The list goes on and on. This is nothing new.
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:41 PM
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The potential problem for USC goes beyond the trail of money to Bush. The Trojan program could be found by the NCAA to have failed to exert proper institutional control.

Sources told Yahoo! Sports that representatives of New Era were allowed into the USC locker room during the 2005 season. Ornstein and other agents frequented the USC sidelines during several games and numerous practices that season, according to published reports.



These are the key issues with USC. If they knew what was going on, and did nothing about it... Otherwise, colleges are going to have a very difficult time exterting "institutional control" over athletes that secretively get agents way ahead. Colleges would need private investigators. The colleges have a hard enough time keeping the alumnists away from the kids. Now when you have a coaching staff directly involved in the pathway of the money to the kids, you got a whole diff. problem. That is when the NCAA comes down hard.
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:28 PM
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it's funny the Redskins stadium hold 91k
they have led the league in attendance the past 6 seasons
well, I can name 6 college stadiums bigger than that
Michigan, Penn State, Tennessee, Ohio State, Georgia, and Alabama
the rest of the league doesn't come close to that compasity
but...20 college stadiums hold 80K or more
and another 8 hold 70K or better
I think the college kids should get paid
they're getting a scholarship, but making the schools a ton of money
and they're getting paid anyway, at least the Bush's are
but it is the NCAA rules, and they have been obviously violated
so SC must be given probation and Petie should be fired
and be forced to go back to the jets~after a good tar and feathering
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Old 09-14-2006, 09:47 PM
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it's funny the Redskins stadium hold 91k
they have led the league in attendance the past 6 seasons
well, I can name 6 college stadiums bigger than that
Michigan, Penn State, Tennessee, Ohio State, Georgia, and Alabama
the rest of the league doesn't come close to that compasity
but...20 college stadiums hold 80K or more
and another 8 hold 70K or better
I think the college kids should get paid
they're getting a scholarship, but making the schools a ton of money
and they're getting paid anyway, at least the Bush's are
but it is the NCAA rules, and they have been obviously violated
so SC must be given probation and Petie should be fired
and be forced to go back to the jets~after a good tar and feathering
The Washington Redskins, reguardless of the size of their stadium, is the most valuable pro sports frachise in this country. They can be bought coach if you have the money. You cant buy Penn State University. TV coach. Its huge for the pros. College, you gotta split revenue a bunch of different ways.
BTW. The value order I saw went something like this:
1. Washington Redskins
2. New York Giants
3. Dallas Cowboys
4. New York Yankees
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Old 09-14-2006, 10:24 PM
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Honestly who cares where Reggie Bush lived? If agents paid him I fail to understand USC's fault in the situation. The agents certainly were not working for or representing USC. Let the NCAA spend some of their money on taking care of the athletes who work so hard FOR NOTHING. Between TV deals and the NCAA tourney the NCAA is loaded. What should the schools do, hire Thomas Magnum to follow all 75 scholarship football players?
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