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![]() Last weeks preps ending 3/6.
Grindstone: ![]() Silver Charm: ![]() Real Quiet: ![]() Charismatic: ![]() Fu Peg: ![]() Monarchos: ![]() War Emblem: ![]() Funny Cide: ![]() Smarty Jones: ![]() Giacomo: ![]() Barbaro: ![]() Street Sense: ![]() Big Brown: ![]() Mine That Bird: ![]() Super Saver: ![]() Last edited by Kasept : 03-11-2011 at 04:50 PM. |
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![]() Thanks for making it one post Kasept.
Who was more impossible ... War Emblem, Mine That Bird, or Charismatic? War Emblem and Charismatic both somehow went into the KY Derby with top last out Beyers ... Mine That Bird went in looking like a 5,000/1 shot. |
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![]() If Giacomo was part of this class, he'd be the 4th or 5th choice in this round of the future wager.
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![]() Where would that put Going Wild & Papi Chullo who beat him in the Sham?
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![]() If you took a poll of everyone before the Sham Stakes - I'm pretty sure Giacomo would have been voted the #1 most likely horse to win the Kentucky Derby that year.
Even after his extremely maligned Sham stakes defeat - he was only 25/1 and 26/1 in the futures. In Vegas - I think he was like bet down to 10/1 or 12/1 before the Sham. I think part of the reason he went off at 50/1 in the Derby was because so many people had future wagers live on him. |
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The horse that gets lost in the post-script of that year's West Coast horses was Ross McLeod's ill-fated General John B (trained by Roger Stein!). I liked him best of the 4 out of the Santa Anita Derby, but he got sick and never ran again. You remember how everyone maligned the SA Derby was that year? And then Buzzards Bay, Wilko and Giacomo all ran well.. And General John B might have as well.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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![]() Yep. Giacomo was 25/1 in round 1 and 26/1 in round 2 ... both came after his Sham defeat.
The thing about that Santa Anita Derby that year is that no one passed anyone. It was a total merry-go-round race. Mike Smith looked like he was going to make this wide sweeping winning turn move with Giacomo and he was flat as a pancake in the stretch. Brad Free - and a few other West coast writers basically wrote that Giacomo was obviously the horse you'd want out of that race ... but, if you can't pass a Roger Stein 75/1 shot ... how can you expect to pass them all in the stretch of the Derby? Real Quiet also looked pretty damn tough to like off an 8th beaten 22 lengths non-effort - as an even money favorite at Golden Gate. |
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I will always believe that the Giacomo syndrome kept his odds below 300/1. I don't think we will ever see a more impossible derby winner in our lifetime. |