Is Paddy O'Prado the new Dancing Forever

[the_fat_man]

Yet another perfect inside trip for this PLUG today. 2nd coming of Dancing Forever, if you ask me. Interactif eats his lunch with a fair trip.

[CSC]

I thought Javier was being a little too cute, peaking for POP rather than just riding his own race. POP ran a nice race but I would have liked to have seen the jock show some confidence and just run his race rather than doing these cutesy, preoccupied, over analytical rides. This horse has now had 3 mediocre rides his last 3 races on turf, maybe Pletch should try Ramon next.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by CSC

I thought Javier was being a little too cute, peaking for POP rather than just riding his own race. POP ran a nice race but I would have liked to have seen the jock show some confidence and just run his race rather than doing these cutesy, preoccupied, over analytical rides. This horse has now had 3 mediocre rides his last 3 races on turf, maybe Pletch should try Ramon next.

What was wrong with the ride? He was basically running on the lead. Was he not supposed to peek back to see who was coming? How was he supposed to know when to move? His trip was close to perfect.

Kent got lucky and found the rail and his horse was good enough to get through. Interactif losing had nothing to do with his jockey.

[gamblin4ever]

Who is the best 3yr old turf route horse if not Paddy O Prado?
People talk about he keeps getting a perfect trip to win but isn't that the idea, get the trip and win. ( Being serious)

[CSC]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

What was wrong with the ride? He was basically running on the lead. Was he not supposed to peek back to see who was coming? How was he supposed to know when to move? His trip was close to perfect.

Kent got lucky and found the rail and his horse was good enough to get through. Interactif losing had nothing to do with his jockey.

It was a very subtle mistake he made, instead of pinching an advantage at the top of the stretch he waited for POP to gain position on the turn and pull up to his inside and that was the whole ballgame, one can say there was nothing wrong about the ride and if you are riding safe I guess that is the case, however in the subtle things that make a difference in winning and losing it was a mediocre ride, the rider had the horse off the pace in the 2 path waited until POP to make his move, lost the tactical advantage and kicked on. Being reactive rather than proactive, any journeyman jockey could reproduce a ride like that, no need for Pletcher to fly in Javier.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by CSC

It was a very subtle mistake he made, instead of pinching an advantage at the top of the stretch he waited for POP to gain position on the turn and pull up to his inside and that was the whole ballgame, one can say there was nothing wrong about the ride and if you are riding safe I guess that is the case, however in the subtle things that make a difference in winning and losing it was a mediocre ride, the rider had the horse off the pace in the 2 path waited until POP to make his move, lost the tactical advantage and kicked on. Being reactive rather than proactive, any journeyman jockey could reproduce a ride like that, no need for Pletcher to fly in Javier.

I dunno that it cost Interactif the race, but your first sentence struck me as the polar opposite of the great ride Cisco Torres gave Workin For Hops in the American Derby yesterday at Arlington.

Tactical pace, near the front, all the threats coming from the back, and instead of waiting til the lane to ask his horse, he opened up about 5/16-3/8 out and basically said "come and get me," and left everyone with way too much to do. Not sure he wins a quarter mile sprint against that bunch, but the horse was loaded and he cut him loose. It was superb.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I dunno that it cost Interactif the race, but your first sentence struck me as the polar opposite of the great ride Cisco Torres gave Workin For Hops in the American Derby yesterday at Arlington.

Tactical pace, near the front, all the threats coming from the back, and instead of waiting til the lane to ask his horse, he opened up about 5/16-3/8 out and basically said "come and get me," and left everyone with way too much to do. Not sure he wins a quarter mile sprint against that bunch, but the horse was loaded and he cut him loose. It was superb.

I am glad someone here understands what I am trying to say, If you are much the best yeah sure there was nothing wrong with Castallano's ride yesterday, Torres knew what he was doing he was alteast going for it. I can live with rides like these, but when you have a foe that is pretty much evenly matched you have to try to take every advantage you can get, pinch a lead, save ground, hug the rail, I didn't see that from his ride yesterday, he couldn't even steer him straight and smoothly on the final turn. I am not saying Interactif would have won had he done all these things correctly, however I do think these 2 are more closely evenly matched than the 1.75 lengths from yesterday's race apparently showed.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by CSC

It was a very subtle mistake he made, instead of pinching an advantage at the top of the stretch he waited for POP to gain position on the turn and pull up to his inside and that was the whole ballgame, one can say there was nothing wrong about the ride and if you are riding safe I guess that is the case, however in the subtle things that make a difference in winning and losing it was a mediocre ride, the rider had the horse off the pace in the 2 path waited until POP to make his move, lost the tactical advantage and kicked on. Being reactive rather than proactive, any journeyman jockey could reproduce a ride like that, no need for Pletcher to fly in Javier.

So if Kent doesnt get a rail pass, is Castellano's ride still mediocre? Was he supposed to move early with the cheap speed that was in front?

A jockey isn't supposed to be a hero. He put his horse in a position to win and if the horse is good enough yesterday, he wins. The trip was perfect. If he starts early and dies in midstretch, you guys would be bitching about how he started him too early and he should have waited.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

So if Kent doesnt get a rail pass, is Castellano's ride still mediocre? Was he supposed to move early with the cheap speed that was in front?

A jockey isn't supposed to be a hero. He put his horse in a position to win and if the horse is good enough yesterday, he wins. The trip was perfect. If he starts early and dies in midstretch, you guys would be bitching about how he started him too early and he should have waited.

I don't think you understand, read my post above you will see my point, Jockies can make a difference between winning and losing, we see this all the time, however Javier rode the race you would expect him to ride the 9th race on Wednesday. He was caught with his pants down when Kent Snuck up on him on the inside and he lost his tactical edge. He should have started his run when POP started his and try to make that one catch him, however he decided that it was better to be lazy and rode him too cutely and nonchalantly.