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Old 12-28-2009, 11:00 AM
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Default Janikowski 61 yard field goal......rule question?



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Given that the only time a field goal is made from this distance it is a line drive with low flying trajectory, is it within the rules of the game to put a defender at the cross bar to deflect the ball as it passes.

It seems that this ball cleared by no more than 6-12 inches which for these guys is the equivalent of grabbing the rim of a basket since they are both 10 feet high.

I know you cannot use another players back to hurl yourself over the line of scrimmage but can you block a ball at the point it clears a cross bar and upright.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:08 AM
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Given that the only time a field goal is made from this distance it is a line drive with low flying trajectory, is it within the rules of the game to put a defender at the cross bar to deflect the ball as it passes.

It seems that this ball cleared by no more than 6-12 inches which for these guys is the equivalent of grabbing the rim of a basket since they are both 10 feet high.

I know you cannot use another players back to hurl yourself over the line of scrimmage but can you block a ball at the point it clears a cross bar and upright.
as far as i know Yes it can be blocked. the same as, if it were short it could be fielded and returned.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:10 AM
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as far as i know Yes it can be blocked. the same as, if it were short it could be fielded and returned.
That would be a trick,wouldn't it!
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:15 AM
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That would be a trick,wouldn't it!
i saw it tried once, a LONG time ago, on a long FG try. i don't remember who it was. i think a tall receiver with a good vertical.
i've also seen a short attempt returned for a TD. caught the defenders "napping"
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:17 AM
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i saw it tried once, a LONG time ago, on a long FG try. i don't remember who it was. i think a tall receiver with a good vertical.
i've also seen a short attempt returned for a TD. caught the defenders "napping"
Can you grab the crossbar and use it to get a better jump which is really what I was asking initially but didn't state the question accurately. So Mangenius actually missed a chance to look smart here as he should have had a defensive back or someone with vertical back at the goal line even if it was the last play of the half
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:19 AM
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Can you grab the crossbar and use it to get a better jump which is really what I was asking initially but didn't state the question accurately. So Mangenius actually missed a chance to look smart here as he should have had a defensive back or someone with vertical back at the goal line even if it was the last play of the half
can not grab the crossbar. would be the same a the "pyramid" rule.

anything to keep 3pts off the board. think of the lift that would have been going in to the locker-room.
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Old 12-28-2009, 11:25 AM
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Can you grab the crossbar and use it to get a better jump which is really what I was asking initially but didn't state the question accurately. So Mangenius actually missed a chance to look smart here as he should have had a defensive back or someone with vertical back at the goal line even if it was the last play of the half

You either try hard for the push to block it, since its most likely going to be a line drive, or Mangini should had Cribbs waiting back there just in case it was short.
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That would be a trick,wouldn't it!
Another great moment in Giants history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wuQ9kd_m2A
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Another great moment in Giants history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wuQ9kd_m2A
i didn't remember that. i was thinking, i'd seen it in a college game.
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