Tejada to the Astros

Scav · #1 12-12-2007, 12:43 PM

Yet another monster in the NL Central for the Cubs to contend with

whodey17 · #2 12-12-2007, 12:59 PM

The Astros need much much more than Tejada to be a contendar. I feel that they gave up way too much for him.

Cannon Shell · #3 12-12-2007, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

The Astros need much much more than Tejada to be a contendar. I feel that they gave up way too much for him.

I agree with your first sentence. I dont with the second. They gave up some fringe players. There are no studs in the gruop. Scott is 30 and is at best a 4th outfielder type. Albers is very average. Troy may be the only one with star potential and that is a stretch. The Orioles didn't get anywhere near the top prospects the Marlins did (not that Tejada is worth it)

None of these guys are a top 100 prospect

Crown@club · #4 12-12-2007, 03:24 PM

If Baltimore ever gets to 85-90 wins again, it won't be on the account of more than one player from this deal that would help do it.

Houston defense weakens as they see Everett as being non-tendered. Still you still have to have players get on base to score runs. Bourn and Matsui are not really known to get there.

2 Dollar Bill · #5 12-12-2007, 04:48 PM

Tejada to the Astros ??..... Can he Pitch ???

MaTH716 · #6 12-12-2007, 05:07 PM

It's going to suck for the Stros when Tejada is on the list tommorrow!

whodey17 · #7 12-13-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I agree with your first sentence. I dont with the second. They gave up some fringe players. There are no studs in the gruop. Scott is 30 and is at best a 4th outfielder type. Albers is very average. Troy may be the only one with star potential and that is a stretch. The Orioles didn't get anywhere near the top prospects the Marlins did (not that Tejada is worth it)

None of these guys are a top 100 prospect

I see your point, but it is not like Tejada has any upswing at this point in his career. Troy Patton and Matt Albers were going to compete for a starting spot. I cannot see giving up two pitchers with starting potential for a 31 year old shortstop. I know the Astros have trouble scoring runs, but who on earth is going to pitch for them. They have no one after Oswalt. Pitcing and defense wins world series and I think Everett is a better defensive shortstop that Tejada and now they have worsen their pitching staff. The move doesn't make sense to me.

Cannon Shell · #8 12-13-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

I see your point, but it is not like Tejada has any upswing at this point in his career. Troy Patton and Matt Albers were going to compete for a starting spot. I cannot see giving up two pitchers with starting potential for a 31 year old shortstop. I know the Astros have trouble scoring runs, but who on earth is going to pitch for them. They have no one after Oswalt. Pitcing and defense wins world series and I think Everett is a better defensive shortstop that Tejada and now they have worsen their pitching staff. The move doesn't make sense to me.

Albers is a below average pitcher and Patton is a double A prospect who is only a fair prospect and has a history of arm trouble. This is a good trade for Houston. They gave up a bunch of guys who aren't major league regulars and got a power hitting SS who fits the home park to a tee. If they were relying on Albers and Patton being in the rotation they were doomed anyway because those guys aren't very good.

whodey17 · #9 12-13-2007, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Albers is a below average pitcher and Patton is a double A prospect who is only a fair prospect and has a history of arm trouble. This is a good trade for Houston. They gave up a bunch of guys who aren't major league regulars and got a power hitting SS who fits the home park to a tee. If they were relying on Albers and Patton being in the rotation they were doomed anyway because those guys aren't very good.

They arent very good. But I think they are a better option than a shortstop who is 31 and on the decline. I would be very surprised to see Tejada hit more than 35 hr's this year. Be interesting to see what happens in a couple of years. In my opinion, give up those 5 guys for a mediocre pitcher instead of Tejada.

Mortimer · #10 12-13-2007, 09:52 PM

Is this trade for real?

Herbstreit got any poop on it?

Cannon Shell · #11 12-13-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

Is this trade for real.

Herbstreit got any poop on it?

He only does Tigers and Indians rumors

pdrift1 · #12 12-12-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by whodey17

The Astros need much much more than Tejada to be a contendar. I feel that they gave up way too much for him.

i agree also-improved-most certainly- but need more i think also

Nascar1966 · #13 12-12-2007, 10:40 PM

I will LOL if Tejada doesnt produce like the Astros think he can. Be funny to watch my Pirates beat the Astros for the season again. I can listen to the dum worthless fans as I leave Minute Maid proudly wearing my Pirates hat trying to me that my Pirates suck even though they start the season 2-0 which is a lot better the starting 0-2 where I come from. Shows the mentallity of the Astros fan base. What made it even better was that the Pirates swept the opening series of the year against the Astros, if im not mistaken didn't the Pirates also sweep the Astros the second series of the season between theses two teams. You Astros fans need a lot more than Tejada.

dylbert · #14 12-12-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I will LOL if Tejada doesnt produce like the Astros think he can. Be funny to watch my Pirates beat the Astros for the season again. I can listen to the dum worthless fans as I leave Minute Maid proudly wearing my Pirates hat trying to me that my Pirates suck even though they start the season 2-0 which is a lot better the starting 0-2 where I come from. Shows the mentallity of the Astros fan base. What made it even better was that the Pirates swept the opening series of the year against the Astros, if im not mistaken didn't the Pirates also sweep the Astros the second series of the season between theses two teams. You Astros fans need a lot more than Tejada.

How many straight losing season do Pirates now have? FIFTEEN. In 2008, going for tie with hapless Phillies of 1930s and 1940s.

I guess winning a season series from Astros (or any other team) is like winning World Series for bottom-dwelling Bucs.

Cannon Shell · #15 12-13-2007, 07:17 AM

Never thought I would see an Astros vs. Pirates debate here....

very interesting

Nascar1966 · #16 12-13-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dylbert

How many straight losing season do Pirates now have? FIFTEEN. In 2008, going for tie with hapless Phillies of 1930s and 1940s.

I guess winning a season series from Astros (or any other team) is like winning World Series for bottom-dwelling Bucs.

If the Pirates had the money like these other teams do, im sure it would be a different story.