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Old 07-08-2006, 10:21 PM
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Default Scud's bet of the year.

Betting $500 on this tonite.I had no idea it was this high(trust me,they have atleast a 50% chance of winning this division.)They shut out the Dodgers,Mariners,A's...and are leading the A's 6-0 tonite.I am not gunna miss out on this.I really don't know how they have peen playing so poorly.They are well managed by a 3 time World Champion.Their middle relief is a problem this year,but I think the starters are getting confidence from the run support.Last 8 games ...starters 1.51 era

Would put a k on them if Donnelley,and the other middle guy(Spear,or whatever )was doing better.This is a weakness.


LA Angels 8/1 to win the American League West

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Old 07-08-2006, 10:40 PM
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As soon as I got my money in, they took the bet down.They will put it back up at 3/1.I had my chance.Too f'n slow.Was that a coincidence,or do they have software that allows them to raise money when they need to(by offering particularly good odds on something,and then taking the bet of that customer's wagering menu(after the customer puts money in their account.)

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Old 07-08-2006, 11:16 PM
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As soon as I got my money in, they took the bet down.They will put it back up at 3/1.I had my chance.Too f'n slow.Was that a coincidence,or do they have software that allows them to raise money when they need to(by offering particularly good odds on something,and then taking the bet of that customer's wagering menu(after the customer puts money in their account.)
Since I dont bet on line Scuds how did that come down? You were ready to make the bet and it showed 3-1 instead of 8-1 so you backed out?

In other words, you made the bet, the program said OK you have 500 dollars at 3-1 and you then said CANCEL transaction cause it was at 8-1?
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Old 07-09-2006, 07:44 PM
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Since I dont bet on line Scuds how did that come down? You were ready to make the bet and it showed 3-1 instead of 8-1 so you backed out?

In other words, you made the bet, the program said OK you have 500 dollars at 3-1 and you then said CANCEL transaction cause it was at 8-1?

NO,PAT, what happened is I didn't have money in the book(whenever I win,I usually drain it,because I think myself and most people have much better judgement when they have to deposit funds each time they bet.Similiar to people are better off paying with a check card for stuff instead of using a credit card that they can avoid paying the full amount of.)So, I put $500 into my balance.O.K.,then I went to the betting menu,and there was no longer a bet called "winner of the American League West." I just think too much money came in,and they had to take that wager down.They later adjusted to 6/1(which I took.)It then went to 11/2.Then 5/1,and now(with another huge pitching performance by 3 different pitchers)it is again not offered for betting.It will probably be offered tomorrow at 3/1.Halo pitchers have come out of their haze,and remember that they are Western Division Champions for 1 reason...PITCHING!!..Barring injuries(which is the concern always,)I will collect on this bet.They have mastered the A'S weak hitters,and get to close the season at home against them.Just that simple.My biggest nightmare would be K ROD,OR LACKEY getting hurt.I believe that Escobar is a complete follower type,and if the team is winning he will win(he could take up the slack if one of those went down.)He has a ton of talent,but is an underperformer(like I said, a follower.)It doesn't take much to create acrimony on a team.I think the early part of this season was partially ruined by one,Jeff Weaver(who has been released,or who knows what they did with the slob.)He pitched(more like threw)for the Dodgers last year.I don't think the guy is a glass half full type of guy,and I think the pitchers,and hitters kind of divided up into two camps(because of influences like this guy.)His kid brother is pitching up a storm for the same Angel team.If he was pitching poorly,I also think he would be a cancer on the team(but since he is pitching well,it is not an issue right now.)Just weird personality genes with that Weaver family. Depression possibly..don't know.

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Old 07-10-2006, 11:14 AM
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I have never seen such a dumb line as this one.I don't see how either Oak,or Texas can be favored over the Halos.I know the Angels are in the A's heads real badly(and they have to play the Halos to finish the season.)Halos buried them easily in the closing weeks last year.Halo pitchers have those batters figured out.Now,after the Halos had the A's pitching coach thrown out for screaming at the home plate umpire(about balls n' strikes,)the A's only get 3 days off.They have to go to Boston.Good luck with that.I guess Texas makes a little more sense(as far as winning the division,)but MARK MY WORDS.Halos will be blood feasting on Oakland in September.


OAK Athletics 4/5


TEX Rangers 13/5


LA Angels 9/2


SEA Mariners 6/1
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Old 07-10-2006, 02:25 PM
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I have never seen such a dumb line as this one.I don't see how either Oak,or Texas can be favored over the Halos.I know the Angels are in the A's heads real badly(and they have to play the Halos to finish the season.)Halos buried them easily in the closing weeks last year.Halo pitchers have those batters figured out.Now,after the Halos had the A's pitching coach thrown out for screaming at the home plate umpire(about balls n' strikes,)the A's only get 3 days off.They have to go to Boston.Good luck with that.I guess Texas makes a little more sense(as far as winning the division,)but MARK MY WORDS.Halos will be blood feasting on Oakland in September.


OAK Athletics 4/5


TEX Rangers 13/5


LA Angels 9/2


SEA Mariners 6/1
Scuds, this was a great wager...I was going to play them at 18/1 to win the American League(go to World Series) but ran out of loot.....I watched every one of their games and played them in all three, them winning the last three kept me going for the weekend.....
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Old 07-09-2006, 12:18 AM
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Scuds: was that Pinnacle? that sucks!
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Old 07-09-2006, 12:31 AM
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Scuds: was that Pinnacle? that sucks!
No,I sent you the name in a private m.I have never had any trouble with them(doesn't mean they aren't above trying to raise some money(even if they have to give it back in a week or 2.)Even the worst book I have ever used have paid me.The question has always been when(not if.)They can drag it out pretty good(tell ya it is a National Holiday in their country ETC. ETC...LOL.)

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Old 07-09-2006, 07:06 AM
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They put it back up at 6/1(I took it.)After I took it at 6/1,it went to 11/2.I love the way they get to start the 2nd half in Tampa,and the A's have to go to baseball hell(Boston.)Then I love all the games against K.C.,TEXAS,AND OAKLAND TO END THE SEASON.Getting rid of Senior brother Weaver=worth 5 wins.Having junior brother Weaver for a full 2nd h=priceless.Lackey is on fire.Fat Colon warming up.Santana and Escobar aren't leaders,but will pile on if the other 3 pitch well.I am worried about the middlle relief(my biggest concern...had to bring K Rod in to get out of the 8th last night..f'n Donnelley should be laying tile.)

Thu. 14 at Texas 8:05 PM FoxW Ameriquest Field Tickets
Fri. 15 at Texas 8:35 PM FoxW Ameriquest Field Tickets
Sat. 16 at Texas 8:05 PM KCOP Ameriquest Field Tickets
Sun. 17 at Texas 2:05 PM Ameriquest Field Tickets
Tue. 19 at Kansas City 8:10 PM FoxW Kauffman Stadium Tickets
Wed. 20 at Kansas City 8:10 PM FoxW Kauffman Stadium Tickets
Fri. 22 at Oakland 10:05 PM KCOP McAfee Coliseum Tickets
Sat. 23 at Oakland 4:05 PM KCOP McAfee Coliseum Tickets
Sun. 24 at Oakland 4:05 PM KCOP McAfee Coliseum Tickets
Mon. 25 Texas 10:05 PM FoxW Angel Stadium Tickets
Tue. 26 Texas 10:05 PM FoxW Angel Stadium Tickets
Wed. 27 Texas 10:05 PM FoxW Angel Stadium Tickets
Thu. 28 Oakland 10:05 PM FoxW Angel Stadium Tickets
Fri. 29 Oakland 10:05 PM FoxW Angel Stadium Tickets
Sat. 30 Oakland 10:05 PM KCOP Angel Stadium Tickets
Oct. '06 OPPONENT TIME (ET) TV LOCATION LAA PITCHER OPP. PITCHER TICKETS
Sun. 1 Oakland 3:35 PM KCOP Angel Stadium Tickets

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Old 07-09-2006, 06:13 PM
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AL WEST
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Oakland 45- 43
Texas 45- 43
LA Angels 43- 45 - 2
Seattle 43- 46 - 2.5


8/1 YESTERDAY...6/1 LAST NIGHT....5/1 THIS MORNING...and will be 3/1 or less to win the division tomorrow morning.Even the inconsistent Santana is in gear with a nasty slider,and Shields struck out the guy who hurt him on Thursday.The Demons haunting the pitching staff are gone(except for Donnelley,and they should ship that cancer off to somebody else.)
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:47 PM
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American League West -FINALLY GETTIN' THE ODDS ABOUT WHERE I THOUGHT THEY WOULD BE.


OAK Athletics 4/5


LA Angels 3/1


TEX Rangers 15/4


SEA Mariners 8/1
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8/1...6/1...11/2...5/1....9/2....7/2...3/1....12/5...19/10

OAK Athletics 6/5


LA Angels 19/10


TEX Rangers 100/30


SEA Mariners 10/1
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OAK Athletics 5/4

LA Angels 7/4

TEX Rangers 100/30


SEA Mariners 10/1
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Old 07-19-2006, 08:45 AM
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Why do the odds have to be this confusing? Why cant they be based on one or two numbers, like horse racing. 5/2 or 3/1.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:20 AM
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Why do the odds have to be this confusing? Why cant they be based on one or two numbers, like horse racing. 5/2 or 3/1.

It's a way to show small changes in odds.As far as horse odds go,Oakland stayed at 6/5,and the Halos just went from 9/5 to 8/5.

6/5=$2.20 changed to 5/4=$2.25(including the dollar wagered)




19/10=$2.90 changed to 7/4=$2.75
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:25 AM
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It just gets really confusing. They should keep it as simple as possible and base all bets off one system of odds, most easiest to understand are win odds in horse racing. No need to make it any more confusing. When will those dummies in Vegas ever learn?
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It just gets really confusing. They should keep it as simple as possible and base all bets off one system of odds, most easiest to understand are win odds in horse racing. No need to make it any more confusing. When will those dummies in Vegas ever learn?
ACTUALLY,THEY LET YOU DISPLAY IT ANY ONE OF 3 WAYS.I just had it on fractions,but you can do it this way:

OAK Athletics +125

LA Angels +175

TEX Rangers +333

SEA Mariners +1000

OR this way:

OAK Athletics 2.25

L.A. Angels 2.75

TEX Rangers 4.333

SEA Mariners 11.00
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Old 07-22-2006, 07:47 AM
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Buddy, your Angels are doing you no favors losing two in a row to the Royals.
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Royals played the Red Sox very tough. The Sox swept em but won 3 games by a total of 4 runs. 2 of the games finished 1-0.

Look for the Royals to make a huge run at the wildcard, LOL!
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Royals played the Red Sox very tough. The Sox swept em but won 3 games by a total of 4 runs. 2 of the games finished 1-0.

Look for the Royals to make a huge run at the wildcard, LOL!

"Buddy, your Angels are doing you no favors losing two in a row to the Royals."



Hittin' me when I am on the deck huh? O.K., OVER 2 MONTHS TO GO.A team that has had a tough year(and goes on a winning streak,)is never really sure that they won't return to doing the things that hurt them.It's there in the back of their minds,and the 1st bad start from their ace pitcher(their leader)can put that fear and pressure on the next starter,and the pressure is passed on each day to the next starter in line.Three poor starting pitching performances(all caused by Lackey melting in the heat of a day game on Wednesday.)Santana is no leader.Colon is no leader.They were each expected to beat K.C...,but they are not stoppers.I can say the same thing for the offense(they are followers..if the pitchin' is good,they will hit...)Make no mistake,this team begins and ends with one,John Lackey,and they may not win again until he pitches a big game on Monday night.Sure this fat guy for K.C. PITCHED a gem on Friday,but Wednesday and Thursday's opposing pitching was only adequate,and the Angels did what losing teams do..leave men on base etc.Garrett Anderson has hurt this team very badly(If you can ask why this team is only .500 this year, I can tell you that this guy has been a huge lead weight that they are having to drag around.) Cabrera is a good hitter,but is under a great deal of pressure(trying to make up for the dead weight of Anderson.)The last 3 days he has pressed,and started to swing at stuff he wasn't swinging at the previous 2 weeks.Swinging very,very hard too. The team has struggled with bad defense all year(something I believe is somewhat due to their defensive leader-Erstad- being hurt.)Let me ask you,how they won,and why they lost in the playoffs last year? They beat a very good Yankee team how? After a poor performance in game 1,LACKEY GAVE UP 5 HITS AND JUST 2 RUNS IN GAME 2.Randy Johnson gave them game 3.In game 4,Lackey gave up just 2 hits and one run in 5 innings.They lost the game,but their ace(their leader)pitched very well.What happened in game 5? Santana struggled,but never quite gave up,and they took the series.Keep going.Where do you see the collapse?No not in the 1st game against the Chisox,and not in the 2nd game.3 losses to that point.How many runs had they given up in those losses? 4,3,and 2.So,where is the breakdown? Gee lets see.Game 3 against the Chisox.LACKEY goes out in the 1st inning and has nothing:

S Podsednik singled to right. 0 0
T Iguchi sacrificed to third, S Podsednik to second. 0 0
J Dye doubled to deep center, S Podsednik scored. 1 0
P Konerko homered to left center, J Dye scored. 3 0
C Everett grounded out to second. 3 0
A Rowand flied out to right. 3 0
3 Runs, 3 Hits, 0 Errors

The series was over after the leader of the club did this.Why? Santana goes as Lackey leads.In game 4 ,what did he go to the mound and do:

S Podsednik walked. 0 0
T Iguchi hit by pitch, S Podsednik to second. 0 0
J Dye flied out to center, S Podsednik to third, T Iguchi to second. 0 0
P Konerko homered to left center, S Podsednik and T Iguchi scored. 3 0
C Everett flied out to right. 3 0
A Rowand struck out swinging. 3 0
3 Runs, 1 Hits, 0 Errors

In game 5,although Byrd pitched o.k.,the Angel offense had given up way back in game 3(after their leader came to the mound with nothing.)This team will win when Lackey leads,and will lose when he struggles.Biggest game of the year (for them) is Monday Night at Tampa Bay.If Lackey comes out there ready to go,then they have a chance,because they will fight if he fights.They will give up if he doesn't have it.He is their only real leader.There are 3 winners on this team.Lackey,Erstad(hurt,)and KROD.Possibly Young Weaver,but not enough experience yet under pennant chase pressure(to know.)That is it.The others don't lead,and will accept losing.This is how they went from winning 8 in a row,to losing 3 in a row(their leader went to the mound with nothing.)Sure,I would like to see Escobar go out there tonite and pitch well.Same for baby Weaver tomorrow,but I know the game of the year is Monday Night in Tampa Bay.It is all on the line,and Lackey needs to go take that mound,and dominate all night long.That is gunna right this team,and it wont be right until he does it.






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