Nice Pick-4 payoffs with the 4% takeout at Ellis

[Dunbar]

To see the power of a 4% takeout, just take a look at yesterday's 4% Pick-4 at Ellis.

The winners of races 8-11 paid $10.80, $5.00, $12.00, $22.80.

What if Saratoga's 25% Pick-4 takeout had been in effect at Ellis? Then yesterday's $1 Pick-4 payoff would have been $1071. But with the 4% takeout, it paid $1371, not $1071. That extra $300 (an extra 28% profit) is what the 4% takeout brings to the game.

IMO, anyone who is not betting the Ellis Pick-4 is:
(1) missing out on what at the moment is the best bet in racing, and
(2) missing out on a chance to help the future of race betting, and therefore, the sport itself.

--Dunbar

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

To see the power of a 4% takeout, just take a look at yesterday's 4% Pick-4 at Ellis.

The winners of races 8-11 paid $10.80, $5.00, $12.00, $22.80.

What if Saratoga's 25% Pick-4 takeout had been in effect at Ellis? Then yesterday's $1 Pick-4 payoff would have been $1071. But with the 4% takeout, it paid $1371, not $1071. That extra $300 (an extra 28% profit) is what the 4% takeout brings to the game.

IMO, anyone who is not betting the Ellis Pick-4 is:
(1) missing out on what at the moment is the best bet in racing, and
(2) missing out on a chance to help the future of race betting, and therefore, the sport itself.

--Dunbar

Couldnt agree more. Good example as well.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

To see the power of a 4% takeout, just take a look at yesterday's 4% Pick-4 at Ellis.

The winners of races 8-11 paid $10.80, $5.00, $12.00, $22.80.

What if Saratoga's 25% Pick-4 takeout had been in effect at Ellis? Then yesterday's $1 Pick-4 payoff would have been $1071. But with the 4% takeout, it paid $1371, not $1071. That extra $300 (an extra 28% profit) is what the 4% takeout brings to the game.

IMO, anyone who is not betting the Ellis Pick-4 is:
(1) missing out on what at the moment is the best bet in racing, and
(2) missing out on a chance to help the future of race betting, and therefore, the sport itself.

--Dunbar

or, in my case (3) stuck in a state (e.g. Missouri) that hates horse racing and bans account wagering.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by smuthg

or, in my case (3) stuck in a state (e.g. Missouri) that hates horse racing and bans account wagering.

That sucks. I'm able to access my Penn National OTB acct's 800# using my cell phone. Not sure if the 800# would work if I was forced to call from a Missouri (or some other regressive state's) land line. In fact, I'm in Hawaii right now, a state with no gambling options, if I remember correctly.

--Dunbar

[Scav]

Have the pools continue to grow with this? I have no opportunity to play unless I go to the OTB, then I will be playing.....

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Scav

Have the pools continue to grow with this? I have no opportunity to play unless I go to the OTB, then I will be playing.....

They're getting $45,000 or so on Saturdays. Which is real good.

On Saturday:

Track / Total Handle / Late p-4 handle

Arlington / 6.3 mil / $55k
Ellis / 2.8 mil / $47k

[SniperSB23]

Seriously though, with 4% takeout they should really be able to get this thing up to $100,000 on weekends. You have to be crazy to not be putting your money into this pool. The results have hardly been unpredictable either.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Cardus

That's a great comparison point. I didn't know how to relate its growth in terms other than comparing where it started to where it is today, and how it relates to its pools of other years.

What Ellis needs to do is run on Mondays and Tuesdays. They'd do well against Delaware and Philadelphia. Hell, even Delaware handles $20k on their p-4. Don't see why Ellis doesn't run those days when the competition is softer.

[SniperSB23]

I've been playing it every morning to get my free past performances on Brisbet. Figure there is no better place for my money to be going.