Discreet Cat draws post 9 of 16 in Dubai on Thursday!

[Gotodubai]

Discreet Cat has drawn post 9 of 16 in race #6 at Nad Al Sheba in Dubai Thursday night here, 12:15pm in New York. Race 6 is 1600meters or 1 mile (8f) on the dirt. He will carry 61kg 134.49lbs, and will be ridden by Frankie Dettori. It is a great card of racing to wager on! Free pp's and all race declarations at: www.emiratesracing.com
clear and 73 degrees here, great for racing. Any thoughts?

[jpops757]

134# this does sound like a hdcp race.

[Linny]

Weights carried in Dubai are generally higher than those in the US. Looks like a great card. I'll be looking over the pp's a bit later and will post some ideas.

Capital OTB viewers will be able to see all the races from Dubai (the first 5 live, the rest replayed) tomorrow on OTB-TV.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Linny

Weights carried in Dubai are generally higher than those in the US. Looks like a great card. I'll be looking over the pp's a bit later and will post some ideas.

Capital OTB viewers will be able to see all the races from Dubai (the first 5 live, the rest replayed) tomorrow on OTB-TV.

Do you know if NYC-OTB will show them and if so what time do they begin?

[smuthg]

Do any of you know if TVG is carrying any of the Dubai races? how about Youbet or Xpressbet?

[ArlJim78]

The Dubai races are carried by Brisbet, live feed and wagering.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by smuthg

Do any of you know if TVG is carrying any of the Dubai races? how about Youbet or Xpressbet?

Youbet has carried them every Thursday.

Originally Posted by Gotodubai

Discreet Cat has drawn post 9 of 16 in race #6 at Nad Al Sheba in Dubai Thursday night here, 12:15pm in New York. Race 6 is 1600meters or 1 mile (8f) on the dirt. He will carry 61kg 134.49lbs, and will be ridden by Frankie Dettori. It is a great card of racing to wager on! Free pp's and all race declarations at: www.emiratesracing.com
clear and 73 degrees here, great for racing. Any thoughts?

I think that maybe the BRZ horses will do some danger that day, not in the case of DISCREET, there, Nelora Pora can do some honest effort. Came latter I will check the PP.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Gotodubai

He will carry 61kg 134.49lbs, and will be ridden by Frankie Dettori.

Heck, that's almost as much weight as the most Man O' War ever carried...and the 15 horses he's facing is about as many horses as Man O' War beat in his entire 3-year-old season.

There are a few South American Group 1 winners in that race, who already have Group Stakes wins over this track. This is no cupcake spot.

The only real concern I see is that fact that Godolphin is 0-for-29 there, with 22 of the losers either the favorite or 2nd favorite in the betting. That is out and out bizarre. This is the same stable that won almost 50% of the races they entered in America last year. Running 1-2 in a couple.

I guess their are rumors starting that the emerging super trainer Ismail Mohammed might take Saeed bin Suroor's job in the not to distant future. It would probably not be good for racing to see Suroor, a former police officer, who many consider highly ethical, to be replaced by a guy who all of a sudden looks like the Dutrow of Dubai.

[blackthroatedwind]

OK, we heard you about Godolphin being on an ofer. We understand this is your built in excuse should the unthinkable happen.

[The Bid]

Impossible Ski is the best chance for South Americans to do something

Alysia in the sprint would be dangerous

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Impossible Ski is the best chance for South Americans to do something

I'm not so sure you can dismiss anything that this man sends out though.



As he's been terrorizing the trainer standings in Dubai all winter long. And his entrant in the race, Imperialista scored a 25/1 upset win, beating Impossible Sky in round 1 of the Maktoum challenge.

Mohammed was just 2-for-66 (and 21% In the money) at the Dubai meet, over this decade. This year, He's 12-for-63 and 43% in the money.

Originally Posted by The Bid

Impossible Ski is the best chance for South Americans to do something

Alysia in the sprint would be dangerous

at my first analisis of the 6th race, just one other horse jump in my papers. GOLD FOR SALE. Yes he lost last year against the CAT, bur enter that race as the 2th well bet, he also had an impresive good races in Argentina. !Ah! I will still loocking around.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

OK, we heard you about Godolphin being on an ofer. We understand this is your built in excuse should the unthinkable happen.

You know I'm having a little fun with it.

But you also know such things can be valid. When Ghostzapper lost in the King's Bishop, to a pair of very inferior horses, Bobby Frankel's barn was similarly ice cold--and could not buy a win for a stretch of time.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You know I'm having a little fun with it.

But you also know such things can be valid. When Ghostzapper lost in the King's Bishop, to a pair of very inferior horses, Bobby Frankel's barn was similarly ice cold--and could not buy a win for a stretch of time.

What Ghostzapper's effort really showed was how random these supposed cold streaks can be as in actuality he won that race by about five lengths. Or, perhaps you want to suggest that had Frankel been winning there wouldn't have been a bias that day AND Ghostzapper wouldn't have been shuffled and wide?

You are so excited about Thursday that you're coming apart at the seams.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

What Ghostzapper's effort really showed was how random these supposed cold streaks can be as in actuality he won that race by about five lengths. Or, perhaps you want to suggest that had Frankel been winning there wouldn't have been a bias that day AND Ghostzapper wouldn't have been shuffled and wide?.

Discreet Cat's half brother won an allowance race on that same card, at the same distance, that was run in faster final time than that King's Bishop.

And yeah, I'm seeing a trend where you seem to label the vast majority of race tracks speed biased on big racing days. Ghostzapper had a very tough trip in the race, and yeah speed was probably preferred, but he also got a lot of pace, and simply did not run as good that day as any of his other career wins in my opinion. Perhaps the effort might have been slightly better than his sharp alw win over Clockstopper earlier in the meet.

Ten Most Wanted won the Travers that year, with complete ease, while making a wide swooping move from well off the pace. The day's opener was won by a deep closer. I don't remember all the details of that day, but I do remember I didn't have the track being strongly speed biased.

Even with trip and circumstances factored in, of course Ghostzapper ran markedly better in every start of his career after that King's Bishop. That was an EXTREMELY low rated running of the King's Bishop, and the pace was certainly there for him.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You know I'm having a little fun with it.

But you also know such things can be valid. When Ghostzapper lost in the King's Bishop, to a pair of very inferior horses, Bobby Frankel's barn was similarly ice cold--and could not buy a win for a stretch of time.

He was like 312948925 wide and had to check on the turn, and was about the only runner that day that made any progress from off the pace. That's why he lost. I bet a boatload of money on him that day and felt ill that he didn't win because he was so tons the best it was scary (I think we all know that now). He galloped out 10 lengths in front...

Valid Video never came back well from his injury but he was a top quality 3YO sprinter when he won that race. To call him mediocre is unfair.

DAY PASS who is undefeated and has been switched to Godolphin also runs Thursday night. I believe he won the Nashau at Acqueduct. He is using his race as a prep for the UAE Derby. Thor's Echo also runs. Three horses who ran in America last year will be in three different races on Thursday night so be sure to check the results.

Also Day Pass PP's are included in that "Derby Contender" pile of PP's

[Mac88]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Heck, that's almost as much weight as the most Man O' War ever carried...and the 15 horses he's facing is about as many horses as Man O' War beat in his entire 3-year-old season.

There are a few South American Group 1 winners in that race, who already have Group Stakes wins over this track. This is no cupcake spot.

The only real concern I see is that fact that Godolphin is 0-for-29 there, with 22 of the losers either the favorite or 2nd favorite in the betting. That is out and out bizarre. This is the same stable that won almost 50% of the races they entered in America last year. Running 1-2 in a couple.

I guess their are rumors starting that the emerging super trainer Ismail Mohammed might take Saeed bin Suroor's job in the not to distant future. It would probably not be good for racing to see Suroor, a former police officer, who many consider highly ethical, to be replaced by a guy who all of a sudden looks like the Dutrow of Dubai.

Wow. i did not know Suroor was a police officer.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Heck, that's almost as much weight as the most Man O' War ever carried...and the 15 horses he's facing is about as many horses as Man O' War beat in his entire 3-year-old season.

If I remember correctly, there was some horse that ran in the UAE Derby last year that carried close to 137 lbs. I think he finished 3rd. There isn't some exchange rate where 1lb here is equal to .7 in Dubai is there?