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Old 08-16-2012, 05:41 PM
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Default what is wrong with lezcano?

everytime you see it a horse is tugging,wanting to go,but no jockey after jockey hold him up thinking there saving him?saving him for what a empty horse 90 % of the time
you got a horse that wants to run let him go

if it were me he wouldnt ride another one of my horses if i was a owner after that ride
11 race saratoga 8-16
terrible
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Old 08-16-2012, 05:52 PM
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He has definitely put in some rides that I have not been happy about, but overall he has ridden very well at this meet. Here is my question, and I will say that the 4 winning that race would have been much better for pmac and myself, with the fractions that the 2 was allowed to get away with, do you really think that anyone was beating that horse or that anyone from the mid to back of the pack was really getting anywhere in the money?
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:35 PM
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Wow, I thought this was going to be some sort of sarcastic thread.

Didn't that horse take a bad step in the 11th?

Guy has been solid. Agree with something Nick said last weekend on ATR - he's a terrific judge of pace. I feel like he has his horse in good position as much as any of the guys riding in Saratoga this summer, especially on the turf.

Go watch his ride on Lubash and then tell me he's "terrible."
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:46 PM
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Wow, I thought this was going to be some sort of sarcastic thread.

Didn't that horse take a bad step in the 11th?

Guy has been solid. Agree with something Nick said last weekend on ATR - he's a terrific judge of pace. I feel like he has his horse in good position as much as any of the guys riding in Saratoga this summer, especially on the turf.

Go watch his ride on Lubash and then tell me he's "terrible."
This. That 4 is slow and she almost went down on the backstretch. The idea that he had something to do with her losing is laughable.

Lezcano is the only guy in the discussion with Dominguez as the best day in, day out rider in the country.
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Old 08-16-2012, 10:21 PM
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This. That 4 is slow and she almost went down on the backstretch. The idea that he had something to do with her losing is laughable.

Lezcano is the only guy in the discussion with Dominguez as the best day in, day out rider in the country.
Wow! The only guy?

I would have to leave. Bejerano as pretty consistent, reliable and. Good on the grass. Agree that Dominguez is seperating himself in New York.

I also think that there are a lot of good "go to" jocks. The horses make these guys and the better the results, the better the mounts.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:00 PM
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I'm a big Lezcano fan, but I think Joel Rosario has really had a good meet and is riding second best after Dominguez. Then it's probably Junior Alvarado (who I have been way wrong about so far) or Lezcano.
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:01 PM
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Wow! The only guy?

I would have to leave. Bejerano as pretty consistent, reliable and. Good on the grass. Agree that Dominguez is seperating himself in New York.

I also think that there are a lot of good "go to" jocks. The horses make these guys and the better the results, the better the mounts.
Lezcano is better than Bejarano and it's not even close. Bejarano beats up on terrible competition in California and gets pretty much every live mount now that Rosario is gone, while Lezcano is consistently holding his own in the strongest colony in racing despite not being first call for a powerhouse barn. Pletcher goes to Castellano and Velazquez, Chad Brown goes to Dominguez first generally. He gets some good mounts from Clement and Mott, but even those he has to split with Leparoux (Clement) and Alvarado (Mott).

Bejarano last 12 months: 23% $1.69 ROI, 21% $1.68 ROI turf
Lezcano last 12 months: 19% $2.12 ROI, 20% $2.07 ROI turf
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