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01-30-2011, 09:37 PM
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Zenyatta makes the top 10!
http://www.horseracingnation.com/pol...kings_All_Time
And in other news... Native Dancer has steadily advanced and is currently #30 overall.  Stakes winner from 5 furlongs to 1.5 miles - good to see him finally established in the top 50. And moving along... Nashua is still having a hard go of it - Provisio (she the 63rd greatest horse of all-time by any gender) has a 14 spot lead on him. As for this weeks top comment I happened to read: 67: Eight Belles - posted by ugozenyatta: poor gurl! did she injury herself during or after the race? did the jockey kno or was it tolate once her found out? 
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01-30-2011, 09:54 PM
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01-30-2011, 09:59 PM
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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01-30-2011, 11:51 PM
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01-31-2011, 09:07 AM
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Artax is closing in on Count Fleet. Gonna be a photo
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01-31-2011, 09:24 AM
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How did I get into racing? When I was Watching jockeys season 1 the first episode I thought it was cool that a horse could be dead last and win and i follow that horse now! Her name Is ZENYATTA! Favorite racing moment? When Zenyatta won the 2009 Breeder's Cup Classic. Also who could for get Presious Passion ran his heart out in the 2009 Breeder's Cup Turf, he did come in 2nd but it was a good 2nd! also when Zenyatta lost her very first race, yeah i was sad i cried myself to sleep, but very very very few horses can make up that kind of ground. But im so very sad. But Awesome Feather might be the new Zenyatta. but no horse eva can replace THE QUEEN ugozenyatta - Re: Uncle Mo 1/6/2011 1:36 PMI dont think this horse could win the kentucky derby maybe jaycito if you saw his run in the juvenille his run. and plus uncle mos pedigree
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01-31-2011, 10:18 AM
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01-31-2011, 02:20 PM
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It's Ellen Parker or Joe Drape under a screen alias.
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01-31-2011, 05:56 PM
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02-01-2011, 03:45 PM
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I'm sorry - but Travis deserves an eclipse award in 2011 for the creation of this list. It's cool, colorful, and best illustrates the cluelessness of the avg racing fan.
Northern Dancer (not to be confused with Native Dancer) is currently #8 - while Kelso and Citation are #18 and #19. To put Northern Dancer ahead of Kelso is as crazy as claiming that Archie Manning was a better NFL QB than Joe Montana, Johnny Unitas, and Dan Marino. Archie Manning did make two pro bowls in his long NFL career - but his career record as a starting quarterback was 35-101-3 and he never once had a single winning season. But, he sired Payton and Eli !! Northern Dancer was not a 2yo champion but he was a 3yo champion the year Kelso claimed his 5th straight Horse of the Year title. Imagine telling someone 45 years ago that Northern Dancer was a better race horse than Kelso and Citation.
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02-01-2011, 03:46 PM
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02-01-2011, 03:57 PM
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If Zenyatta ran more than 2 times against the boys maybe I would put her in the top ten. Beating up on marginal Grade II or at best Grade III fillies and mares on a synthetic surface doesn't mean a horse should be in the top ten. If Zenyatta was the 2nd coming of a Secretariat or Affirmed why did she only race against the boys twice. Her last race weight was given to her and she lost.
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02-01-2011, 04:08 PM
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1. Spectacular Bid 2. Kelso 3. Secretariat 4. Dr. Fager 5. Forego 6. Citation 7. Swaps 8. Native Dancer 9. Tom Fool 10. Whirlaway 11. Damascus 12. Round Table 13. Affirmed 14. Buckpasser 15. Man O' War 16. Count Fleet 17. Easy Goer 18. Seattle Slew 19. Skip Away 20. John Henry
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02-01-2011, 04:10 PM
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Ok top 20 since 1995, that will be it for tonight.
Thanks.
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02-01-2011, 04:12 PM
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02-01-2011, 04:19 PM
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I rated him the best 2-year-old of the 80's - a decade of many super 2yo's - and the 2nd best 3yo of the 80's behind Sunday Silence. Sunday Silence didn't do much at age 2 - and his edge over Easy Goer at age 3 was razor thin because of the head-to-head matches where he was able to exploit his tactical superiority while Easy Goer was picking the wrong races to break poorly, race erratically, and make pre-mature moves. I think even Sunday Silence's biggest fans will admit Easy Goer should be rated higher when you take the entire career into consideration - and not just the 3yo season.
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02-01-2011, 04:23 PM
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How about a little informal voting here to see where DT people who actually took the time to vote ranked some of the ones who have been discussed? At the risk of being ridiculed, here are some of mine with the current top 20 and a few others I feel are misplaced.
Secretariat Man O War Seattle Slew Affirmed Spectacular Bid Dr Fager Forego Count Fleet-fringe top 50, yeah, more like top 5 Citation- top 5 Kelso Anyone not have the above as 10? ______________________ Northern Dancer- I gave him 9 John Henry- 9 Sunday Silence- 9 Zenyatta- 9 Ruffian- 9 Alydar -9 Swaps- 9 or 10 Damascus- 9 or 10 Seabiscuit- tough one..9 __________ Goldlikova- I gave her 10. 3 BC and all those open G1 Cigar- 10 AP Indy- 8. Talented, better sire than compiled results Native Dancer- 9 because he never beat older horses Buckpasser- 10 Whirlaway- another tough one. 9 or 10 Barbaro- in the context of top 250, maybe a 6 Eight Belles- seriously, was 2nd in Ky Derby and that was her best. 3 Rachel Alexandra- best 3yo filly I have seen gets you a 9. Nashua-9 Proviso- top 100? 5 Colin- 9 Lost in the Fog- lost his only tough race. 5 Blind Luck- good 3yo filly, maybe 7 Ouija Board- underrated. Globe trotting mare almost won 3 BC. 9 ....oh there are just too many that raced in the last 5 years that are overrated. Almost all of these are champions of high class, but in the context of a "top 250 all time" they just don't measure up.
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