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Old 09-05-2010, 04:57 AM
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SARATOGA RACE COURSE


PRE-SCRATCHES


1st: OC/N2X, 3+, 8.5f-IT (P3, DD, Super)

Best Value: #1 Big Polk a Dot 12-1 7th
Next Best: #4 Stevil 9-2 2nd
Exotics Use: #2 Writingonthewall 5-1 WON ($9.10)
Super Add: #3 Karakorum Legend 4-1 3rd

$1 Exacta (2-4) Paid $19.70
$1 Trifecta (2-4-3) Paid $68.00



2nd: MSW, F&M-3+, 7f (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #7 Include the Cat 7-2 WON ($9.70)
Best Value: #3 Quippery 8-1 4th
Next Best: #8 Sortilege 7-2 2nd
Super Add: #1 Speak Freely 15-1 5th

$1 Exacta (7-8) Paid $15.10
$1 Daily Double (2-7) Paid $20.60



3rd: CLM/N2L, F&M-3+, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 Bea Bet 3-1 WON ($4.20)
Best Value: #5 Saratoga Tiger 12-1 7th
Next Best: #2 SCR
Super Add: #9 La Belle Gabrielle 5-1 2nd

$1 Exacta (3-1) Paid $12.90
$1 Pick 3 (2-7-3) 3 Correct Paid $37.75
$1 Daily Double (7-3) Paid $9.10



4th: NY-MSW, 3+, 9.5f-T (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #8 Brunelli 7-2 7th
Best Value: #6 Syzygy 10-1 2nd
Next Best: #7 Won O Won 5-1 5th
Super Add: #1 Beth's Kitten 8-1 6th


5th: NY-MSW, 2yo-F, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #6 Ginger Snapit 2-1 WON ($3.30)
Best Value: #3 Buttonfront 12-1 4th
Next Best: #4 Roots Run Deep 6-1 6th
Super Add: #9 Soinlovewithuiam 4-1 8th


<$75 P4 Play:

2: 3-7-8
3: 2-3-5-9
4: 6-7-8
5: 3-6

3x4x3x2 = $72


6th: MSW, F&M-3+, 1m-IT (P6, P3, DD)

Best Value: #7 Hey Hey Mama 5-1 7th
Next Best: #2 Chardonniere 5-2 5th
Exotics Use: #5 Smart Farming 5-1 9th


7th: OC/N2X, F&M-3+, 7f (G/S, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #2 Ash Zee 4-5 WON ($2.70)
Best Value: #7 Sneaky Girl 10-1 4th
Next Best: #3 Film Charm 5-1 2nd
Super Add: #8 North Rodeo 10-1 6th


8th: CLM/N2L, F&M-3+, 8.5f-IT (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Zodiac Girl 3-1 3rd
Best Value: #3 Eager Leader 10-1 6th
Next Best: #4 Thunder Way 6-1 8th
Super Add: #7 My Sweet Emily 20-1 10th


9th: 103rd Saranac (G3), 3yo, 9.5f-T (P3, DD)

Favored #2 an underlay and hardly superior, but should get the prefered easy front-end tour..

Most Likely: #2 Fantastico Roberto 5-2 3rd
Best Value: #5 Devon Rock 9-2 5th
Next Best: #3 Lethal Combination 3-1 WON ($8.60)


10th: 119th Spinaway (G1), 2yo-F, 7f (DD)

Excellent bunch of young fillies..

Most Likely: #1e Pletcher-Repole entry 7-2 6th/8th
Best Value: #7 R Heat Lightening 4-1 WON ($10.40)
Next Best: #3 Alienation 4-1 2nd

$1 Exacta (7-3) Paid $25.75
$1 Daily Double (3-7) Paid $35.00



11th: MDN CLM, F&M-3+, 5.5f-T (Super)

Best Value: #2 Swales Park 15-1 7th
Next Best: #4 She's a Ketch 3-1 WON ($7.20)
Exotics Use: #5 Atlantic Beauty 5-1 2nd
Super Add: #6 Disarming 12-1 8th

$1 Exacta (4-5) Paid $13.90
$1 Daily Double (7-4) Paid $19.50
$1 Pick 3 (3-7-4) 3 Correct Paid $101.50



<$75 P4 Play:

8: 1-3-4
9: 2-3-5
10: 1-3-4-7
11: 2-4

3x3x4x2 = $72


Good luck!
Steve
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Old 09-05-2010, 01:43 PM
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Brutal Beat in the 4th
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:07 PM
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Believe that? Horse had NO excuse not to win. Cost the win bet and the P4.
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:14 PM
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Believe that? Horse had NO excuse not to win. Cost the win bet and the P4.
Did you enjoy Lezcano's ride in the 1st and the 5th? Stevil changed leads at least 5 times in the stretch. Is there a poorer handler of horses in the lane than Lezcano?
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:27 PM
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Did you enjoy Lezcano's ride in the 1st and the 5th? Stevil changed leads at least 5 times in the stretch. Is there a poorer handler of horses in the lane than Lezcano?
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:52 PM
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The turf course is a joke. It is making a mockery of the entire meet.
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:56 PM
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The turf course is a joke. It is making a mockery of the entire meet.
Completey agree
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Old 09-05-2010, 03:58 PM
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The turf course is a joke. It is making a mockery of the entire meet.
What's funnier is that there are still some jocks that don't quite get it. Like Mena, in the 8th, who outbroke the field on the 4, and then took her back to rate. He did her a very nice rail trip.

There's also a speed turf bias at WO. And, when they do some maintenance on the POLY, speed holds real well. This has made for a very predictable meet.

A lot to be said about running on the turf when it's wet. You **** it up but at least it stays fair.
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WOW. Were those actually REAL HORSE fractions in the 8th? Did they actually run 46+, 110+ routing on the turf? No kidding.

So these TBREDS are capable of faster than ARABIAN splits

There's a way to beat the bias.
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Old 09-05-2010, 04:34 PM
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WOW. Were those actually REAL HORSE fractions in the 8th? Did they actually run 46+, 110+ routing on the turf? No kidding.

So these TBREDS are capable of faster than ARABIAN splits

There's a way to beat the bias.
Just in time to knock Pat and I out of the pk4,
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Old 09-05-2010, 09:01 PM
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Did you enjoy Lezcano's ride in the 1st and the 5th? Stevil changed leads at least 5 times in the stretch. Is there a poorer handler of horses in the lane than Lezcano?
please something is up at toga with this guy any other track hes money..you dont forget how to ride but at toga this guy is off..way off..he will eat the lunch on most all these guys at belmont and gulfstream/bc /keeneland
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Did you enjoy Lezcano's ride in the 1st and the 5th? Stevil changed leads at least 5 times in the stretch. Is there a poorer handler of horses in the lane than Lezcano?
Did he do okay in the 6th at Belmont today?
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Old 09-25-2010, 03:54 PM
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Did he do okay in the 6th at Belmont today?
Watch him get outfinished by Alex Solis in the 8th costing me a fortune. He f*%king sucks!
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Watch him get outfinished by Alex Solis in the 8th costing me a fortune. He f*%king sucks!
What did he do wrong in that race?
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Was this really bumped for a guy who is currently 2/45? I mean his defenders said it was just Saratoga, whats the excuse now?
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