top u..s commander in hot water

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

after a rolling stone interview ..lol the wheels are coming off..

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...062201536.html

[randallscott35]

God forbid someone be honest. He shouldn't backtrack. He is on the money. Get the hell out of there.

[dellinger63]

Love some of the quotes

McChrystal described his first meeting with Obama as disappointing and said that Obama was unprepared for the meeting.


National Security Advisor Jim Jones is described by a McChrystal aide as a “clown” stuck in 1985.


Others aides joked about Biden’s last name as sounding like “Bite me” since Biden opposed the surge.

After Obama gives him his a$$kicking, reading a prepared statement, he's gone.

[randallscott35]

Maybe he wanted to be canned. I mean you have to know the way this plays out when you give the interview.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

5,4,3,2, min till riot gets on here and dogs rolling stone ..the very source of her scorching must read about the bp spill..lmao all the wile defending obama..
and trying to toss a top general who put his time in was appointed by congress..under the bus.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Maybe he wanted to be canned. I mean you have to know the way this plays out when you give the interview.

that must be... While I dont agree with the top commander in Afghanistan publically saying that stuff about the administration (this type of stuff should happen behind close doors).. I dont doubt at all that all of the stuff he said was true.

As time passes and it becomes increasingly clear that President Obama is not fit to be a US President (and before all you dumbocrats comeback with "oh George Bush! - he ALSO wasnt fit to be a US President - and Obama hasnt done any better)

Looking back to the election in November 2008 and the primaries before it, I am not ashamed to admit that I now feel Hillary Clinton was the best choice for President. I feel she would be doing about 1,000 times better than Obama.. and a solid 750 times better than McCain if he was elected (I still feel McCain was a better choice than Obama - too many people let Palin influence their feelings for McCain, when the VP doesnt really do anything anyway)

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Looking back to the election in November 2008 and the primaries before it, I am not ashamed to admit that I now feel Hillary Clinton was the best choice for President.

Couldn't agree more. She was my early choice for the Dems before the real primary season began because I'd liked her for yeaaaaaaaars, but I got sucked into Obama fever throughout the campaign, and wasn't going to vote for anyone who brought Sarah Palin along on the ticket in a million years (especially when the Prez is 70 years old, no way I'm taking ANY chance on that idiot landing herself in the White House by accident), so naturally I supported Obama. But he's been a pretty significant letdown to me so far.

But I'd take Clinton any day and have always liked her.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-96873364.html

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/op...-96873364.html

Vietnam all over again.....

[Riot]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

5,4,3,2, min till riot gets on here and dogs rolling stone ..the very source of her scorching must read about the bp spill..

Why you would insert this about the Gulf into a thread about Afghanistan is a bit puzzling, but hey, we all know how classy you are

BTW, turns out the petro-geek blog Mother Jones (not Rolling Stone) was copying and sending around to try and verify about the well casing being compromised is ... looking pretty accurate this morning.

I hope your own personal indicators of the extent of damage caused by the oil spill - your swimming pool and gas grill - are okay.

[Danzig]

Often these civilian aides have a loose portfolio and are brought along in part because they aren't as constrained by the military's chain of command


and therein lies the rub...much as anyone might enjoy having a general badmouth his commander in chief, it can and will only land said general in hot water. it's not the military way, to do things like what may well have happened here...guess we'll see once the rolling stone article appears. but we most likely will be looking for a new commander in afganistan, and soon.

[Riot]

The question is why would he sacrifice his career over this - his chosen methodology doesn't by default force the administration to change anything about the current approach to Afghanistan, unless it's keyed somehow to the next in line to be there.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Often these civilian aides have a loose portfolio and are brought along in part because they aren't as constrained by the military's chain of command


and therein lies the rub...much as anyone might enjoy having a general badmouth his commander in chief, it can and will only land said general in hot water. it's not the military way, to do things like what may well have happened here...guess we'll see once the rolling stone article appears. but we most likely will be looking for a new commander in afganistan, and soon.

even if I'm Obama and I like the job he's doing in Afghanistan.. he would still get demoted / fired. you can talk **** about your boss underneath your back or to your friends, but not to a rolling stones reporter.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Why you would insert this about the Gulf into a thread about Afghanistan is a bit puzzling, but hey, we all know how classy you are .

Hint: Rolling Stone magazine

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

The question is why would he sacrifice his career over this - his chosen methodology doesn't by default force the administration to change anything about the current approach to Afghanistan, unless it's keyed somehow to the next in line to be there.

really the only answer I can come up with is he wanted to be fired and he didnt want to lead this war the way the President does. Maybe he felt if he made a stink and got fired, there would be a better chance of things changing (on how we are fighting in Afghanistan) than if he just resigned.

Its not a respectable thing for the general to do (this article) but it sure doesnt look good for your man Obama and his abilities.

I guess I'll be buying the Rolling Stones mag this week.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

The question is why would he sacrifice his career over this - his chosen methodology doesn't by default force the administration to change anything about the current approach to Afghanistan, unless it's keyed somehow to the next in line to be there.

Because he cares about his troops more than his personal career? And when he has to follow orders from a clown calls it a day?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Because he cares about his troops more than his personal career? And when he has to follow orders from a clown calls it a day?

I'd think if the man's primary concern was indeed concern for his troops, he wouldn't call it a day, he'd stay to help protect them from decisions he didn't agree with. Or he'd tell his Commander in Chief he couldn't carry out his orders and suffer removal. Or he'd retire with class.

Sad way to end a distinguished military career. I'll bet Obama doesn't have the balls to fire him. And yes, I think he must be fired. It doesn't matter who the President is, or if you agree with the politics or not, you don't publically eff the Commander in Chief.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Maybe he felt if he made a stink and got fired, there would be a better chance of things changing (on how we are fighting in Afghanistan) than if he just resigned.

I guess I'll be buying the Rolling Stones mag this week.

Maybe, but the damage to the United States and the office of the President is greater than to Obama the man. I can't see McC. doing a suicide mission to the US, just to stick it to Obama.

Don't purchase RS, excerpts will be all over the internet for free by the end of the day

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Maybe, but the damage to the United States and the office of the President is greater than to Obama the man.

Maybe the damage done to the United States by Obama the man is greater than the office of President?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

even if I'm Obama and I like the job he's doing in Afghanistan.. he would still get demoted / fired. you can talk **** about your boss underneath your back or to your friends, but not to a rolling stones reporter.

exactly. and if the boss doesn't like you, you're history. just ask mcarthur.