The Anti-digital Obama

[joeydb]

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"With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, -- none of which I know how to work -- information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation," Obama said.

Who writes this stuff? So now you can be "emancipated" -- freed from slavery -- by not being able to use your entertainment hardware that you bought? Whoever is preparing his teleprompter ought to start focusing on what these words mean instead of just how they sound when strung together.

He goes on to champion education -- which of course I can agree with -- except that we know from numerous other remarks he has made that he does not want the educated people to profit from their skills. He's got to understand that the majority of Americans won't embrace Marxism no matter how much he pushes it (thank God).

[ArlJim78]

right, he doesn't know how to work an ipod except he's been photographed wearing one, he told Rolling Stone what music he had on it, and he gave one as a gift to Queen Elizabeth.

He says stay away from the xbox yet he ran several campaign ads on xbox games.

Now he tries to claim he doesn't know how to use these modern gadgets yet his campaign made an issue of McCain not being email savvy.

What this all was was another very clumsy stab at conservative media, radio and blogs. He a champion of free speech when it is speech that he agrees with.

The most jaw dropping part of that speech was when he said these media sources don't have any kind of "truth meter". Oh man that is rich coming from the biggest liar to ever occupy the Whitehouse.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by joeydb

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...7fqpUFXbffoObg



Who writes this stuff? So now you can be "emancipated" -- freed from slavery -- by not being able to use your entertainment hardware that you bought? Whoever is preparing his teleprompter ought to start focusing on what these words mean instead of just how they sound when strung together.

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Whoever is criticizing someone on the internet on word usage, should first check in the dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emancipate

See definition 3

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...7fqpUFXbffoObg

"With iPods and iPads and Xboxes and PlayStations, -- none of which I know how to work -- information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment, rather than the means of emancipation," Obama said.

Who writes this stuff? So now you can be "emancipated" -- freed from slavery -- by not being able to use your entertainment hardware that you bought? Whoever is preparing his teleprompter ought to start focusing on what these words mean instead of just how they sound when strung together.

He goes on to champion education -- which of course I can agree with -- except that we know from numerous other remarks he has made that he does not want the educated people to profit from their skills. He's got to understand that the majority of Americans won't embrace Marxism no matter how much he pushes it (thank God).

i think he's right. people are able to access tools and information-yet most still use their computers for gaming. how does that help us as a society? other than making us better at using our thumbs that is....we have technology that was unheard of not so long ago-are we using it the best way we can? no.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think he's right. people are able to access tools and information-yet most still use their computers for gaming. how does that help us as a society? other than making us better at using our thumbs that is....we have technology that was unheard of not so long ago-are we using it the best way we can? no.

That paddle and red ball was a great society booster until the damn rubberband would break. And a hoop and a stick? forgetaboutit!

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Whoever is criticizing someone on the internet on word usage, should first check in the dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emancipate

See definition 3

That's legitimate, but do you really think he was going for the third definition, especially when his comments were given in a political context?

As for societal progress, a society is nothing more than a collection of individuals. It then follows that...

A free society is a collection of free individuals.
A productive society is a collection of productive individuals.
A happy society is a collection of happy individuals.

I think if the people are free to pursue happiness in their own way, society as a whole will benefit.

The president would be unrealistic to think that people are going to run out and spend their hard earned money just to work some more for little or no financial gain. The guys who do buy an iPad and develop software for it, even games, are contributing to the economy when those games are bought for 99 cents or whatever the rate is.

[Riot]

Not hard to believe that so many media outlets cherry-picked a sentence or two, missing the entire point of the speech. Sorta proves the point of the example the President used, regarding the need for education.

Good morning, Happy Mother's Day to all the moms here today, and thank you for inviting me to share this special occasion with the Hampton community. Before we get started, I just want to say, I'm excited the Battle of the Real H.U. will be taking place in Washington this year. You all know I'm not going to pick sides. But it's been, what, 13 years since the Pirates lost. As one Hampton alum on my staff put it, the last time Howard beat Hampton, The Fugees were still together.

Let me also say a word to President Harvey, a president who bleeds Hampton blue. In a single generation, Hampton has transformed from a small black college into a world-class research institution. That transformation has come through the efforts of many people, but it has come through President Harvey's efforts, in particular, and I want to commend him for his leadership.

I also want to recognize the Board of Trustees, faculty, alums, family, and friends with us today. And most importantly, I want to congratulate all of you, the Class of 2010 - I take it none of you walked across Ogden Circle.

We meet here today, as graduating classes have met for generations, not far from where it all began, near that old oak tree off Emancipation Drive. I know my University 101. There, beneath its branches, by what was then a Union garrison, about twenty students gathered on September 17, 1861. Taught by a free citizen, in defiance of Virginia law, the students were escaped slaves from nearby plantations, who had fled to the fort seeking asylum.

After the war's end, a retired Union general sought to enshrine that legacy of learning. With collections from church groups, Civil War veterans, and a choir that toured Europe, Hampton Normal and Agricultural Institute was founded here, by the Chesapeake - a home by the sea.

That story is no doubt familiar to many of you. But it is worth reflecting on why it happened; why so many people went to such trouble to found Hampton and all our Historically Black Colleges and Universities. The founders of these institutions knew, of course, that inequality would persist long into the future. They recognized that barriers in our laws, and in our hearts, wouldn't vanish overnight.

But they also recognized a larger truth; a distinctly American truth. They recognized that with the right education, those barriers might be overcome and our God-given potential might be fulfilled. They recognized, as Frederick Douglass once put it, that "education...means emancipation." They recognized that education is how America and its people might fulfill our promise. That recognition, that truth - that an education can fortify us to rise above any barriers, to meet any tests - is reflected, again and again, throughout our history.

In the midst of civil war, we set aside land grants for schools like Hampton to teach farmers and factory-workers the skills of an industrializing nation. At the close of World War II, we made it possible for returning GIs to attend college, building and broadening our great middle class. At the Cold War's dawn, we set up Area Studies Centers on our campuses to prepare graduates to understand and address the global threats of a nuclear age.

Education, then, is what has always allowed us to meet the challenges of a changing world. And that has never been more true than it is today. You're graduating in a time of great difficulty for America and the world. You're entering the job market, in an era of heightened international competition, with an economy that's still rebounding from the worst crisis since the Great Depression. You're accepting your degrees as America wages two wars - wars that many in your generation have been fighting.

Meanwhile, you're coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don't rank all that high on the truth meter. With iPods and iPads; Xboxes and PlayStations; information becomes a distraction, a diversion, a form of entertainment, rather than a tool of empowerment. All of this is not only putting new pressures on you; it is putting new pressures on our country and on our democracy.

It's a period of breathtaking change, like few others in our history. We can't stop these changes, but we can adapt to them. And education is what can allow us to do so. It can fortify you, as it did earlier generations, to meet the tests of your own time.

First and foremost, your education can fortify you against the uncertainties of a 21st century economy. In the 19th century, folks could get by with a few basic skills, whether they learned them in a school like Hampton, or picked them up along the way. For much of the 20th century, a high school diploma was a ticket to a solid middle class life. That is no longer the case.

Jobs today often require at least a bachelor's degree, and that degree is even more important in tough times like these. In fact, the unemployment rate for folks who've never gone to college is over twice as high as it is for folks with a college degree or more.

The good news is, all of you are ahead of the curve. All those checks you wrote to Hampton will pay off. You are in a strong position to outcompete workers around the world. But I don't have to tell you that too many folks back home aren't as well prepared. By any number of different yardsticks, African Americans are being outperformed by their white classmates, and so are Hispanic Americans. And students in well-off areas are outperforming students in poorer rural or urban communities, no matter what color their skin.

Globally, it's not even close. In 8th grade science and math, for example, American students are ranked about 10th overall compared to top-performing countries. African Americans, however, are ranked behind more than twenty nations, lower than nearly every other developed country.

All of us have a responsibility, as Americans, to change this; to offer every child in this country an education that will make them competitive in our knowledge economy. But all of you have a separate responsibility, as well. To be role models for your brothers and sisters. To be mentors in your communities. And, when the time comes, to pass that sense of an education's value down to your children. To pass down that sense of personal responsibility and self-respect. To pass down the work ethic that made it possible for you to be here today.

So, allowing you to compete in the global economy is the first way your education can prepare you. But it can also prepare you as citizens. With so many voices clamoring for attention on blogs, on cable, on talk radio, it can be difficult, at times, to sift through it all; to know what to believe; to figure out who's telling the truth and who's not. Let's face it, even some of the craziest claims can quickly gain traction. I've had some experience with that myself.

Fortunately, you'll be well positioned to navigate this terrain. Your education has honed your research abilities, sharpened your analytical powers, and given you a context for understanding the world. Those skills will come in handy.

But the goal was always to teach you something more. Over the past four years, you've argued both sides of a debate. You've read novels and histories that take different cuts at life. You've discovered interests you didn't know you had, and made friends who didn't grow up the same way you did. And you've tried things you'd never done before, including some things I'm sure you wish you hadn't.

All of it, I hope, has had the effect of opening your minds; of helping you understand what it's like to walk in someone else's shoes. But now that your minds have been opened, it's up to you to keep them that way. And it will be up to you to open minds that remain closed. That, after all, is the elemental test of any democracy: whether people with differing points of view can learn from each other, work with each other, and find a way forward together.

I'd also add one further observation. Just as your education can fortify you, it can also fortify our nation, as a whole. More and more, America's economic preeminence, our ability to outcompete other countries, will be shaped not just in our boardrooms and on our factory floors, but in our classrooms, our schools, and at universities like Hampton; by how well all of us, and especially us parents, educate our sons and daughters.

What's at stake is more than our ability to outcompete other nations. It's our ability to make democracy work in our own nation. Years after he left office, decades after he penned the Declaration, Thomas Jefferson sat down, a few hours' drive from here, in Monticello, to write a letter to a longtime legislator, urging him to do more on education. Jefferson gave one principal reason - the one, perhaps, he found most compelling. "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free," he wrote, "it expects what never was and never will be."

What Jefferson recognized, like the rest of that gifted generation, was that in the long run, their improbable experiment - America - wouldn't work if its citizens were uninformed, if its citizens were apathetic, if its citizens checked out, and left democracy to those who didn't have their best interests at heart. It could only work if each of us stayed informed and engaged; if we held our government accountable; if we fulfilled the obligations of citizenship.

The success of their experiment, they understood, depended on the participation of its people - the participation of Americans like all of you. The participation of all those who've ever sought to perfect our union. Americans like Dorothy Height.

As you probably know, Dr. Height passed away the other week at the age of 98. Having been on the firing line for every fight from lynching to desegregation to the battle for health care reform, she lived a singular life. But she started out just like you, understanding that to make something of herself, she needed a college degree.

So, she applied to Barnard - and got in. Only, when she showed up, they discovered she wasn't white like they'd thought. You see, their two slots for African Americans had already been filled. But Dr. Height was not discouraged. She was not deterred. She stood up, straight-backed, and with Barnard's acceptance letter in hand, marched down to NYU, where she was admitted right away.

Think about that for a moment. A woman, a black woman, in 1929, refusing to be denied her dream of a college degree. Refusing to be denied her rights. Her dignity. Her piece of America's promise. Refusing to let any barriers of injustice or inequality stand in her way. That refusal to accept a lesser fate; that insistence on a better life is, ultimately, the secret of America's success.

So, yes, an education can fortify us to meet the tests of our economy, the tests of citizenship, and the tests of our time. But what makes us American is something that can't be taught - a stubborn insistence on pursuing a dream.

The same insistence that led a band of patriots to overthrow an empire. That fired the passions of union troops to free the slaves and union veterans to found schools like Hampton. That led foot-soldiers the same age as you to brave fire-hoses on the streets of Birmingham and billy clubs on a bridge in Selma. That led generation after generation of Americans to toil away, quietly, without complaint, in the hopes of a better life for their children and grandchildren.

That is what has makes us who we are. A dream of brighter days ahead, a faith in things unseen, a belief that here, in this country, we're the authors of our own destinies. And it now falls to you, the Class of 2010, to write the next great chapter in America's story; to meet the tests of your own time; and to take up the ongoing work of fulfilling our founding promise. Thank you, God Bless You, and may God Bless the United States of America.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Not hard to believe that so many media outlets cherry-picked a sentence or two, missing the entire point of the speech. Sorta proves the point of the example the President used, regarding the need for education.

I can't believe "What Jefferson recognized, like the rest of that gifted generation, was that in the long run, their improbable experiment - America " hasn't been picked. Improbable Experiment? That's what this President thinks of the founding fathers? Real Nice!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I can't believe "What Jefferson recognized, like the rest of that gifted generation, was that in the long run, their improbable experiment - America " hasn't been picked. Improbable Experiment? That's what this President thinks of the founding fathers? Real Nice!

What the President thinks of the founding fathers is probably exactly what he called them, above: "gifted".

You have to be kidding? Have you never taken an American history class? America's proposed structure of a democratic republic was indeed an "improbable experiment".

[joeydb]

I've heard it called a bold experiment, many times, but "improbable"? I think that's the first time I've heard it put quite that way.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I can't believe "What Jefferson recognized, like the rest of that gifted generation, was that in the long run, their improbable experiment - America " hasn't been picked. Improbable Experiment? That's what this President thinks of the founding fathers? Real Nice!

And further to the point, if people started picking this line out of the speech, then more people could give ridiculous interpretations of it like you just did, where you seem to think that calling something that was an improbable experiment an "improbable experiment" is somehow a knock.

How that can even remotely be construed as a dig at the founding fathers is absolutely beyond me.

[Honu]

Like any of those kids give a frogs fat azz what he says about their Ipod's and IPad's and how much information they choose to see. I bet what they heard was Blah Blah Blah and Waa Waa Waaa. That is usually what I hear when he speaks lol.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

How that can even remotely be construed as a dig at the founding fathers is absolutely beyond me.

For the same reason when a dog makes a sound I call it a bark because I've heard it many times before. In Obama's case it started on his first world Apology for America tour. Hell his wife didn't experience her first momement of pride for the country until a few years ago.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I've heard it called a bold experiment, many times, but "improbable"? I think that's the first time I've heard it put quite that way.

Doesn't seem to be a very unique phrase when referring to the origin of our country. "America" wasn't viewed by many as an assured success in the beginning. Even the founding fathers had fears and doubts. A quick search shows others using the same phrase:

The Founding Fathers Reconsidered - By Richard B. Bernstein
The Heritage Foundation. The American experiment - by Helle Dale

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

For the same reason when a dog makes a sound I call it a bark because I've heard it many times before. In Obama's case it started on his first world Apology for America tour. Hell his wife didn't experience her first momement of pride for the country until a few years ago.

"Meanwhile, you're coming of age in a 24/7 media environment that bombards us with all kinds of content and exposes us to all kinds of arguments, some of which don't rank all that high on the truth meter."

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

For the same reason when a dog makes a sound I call it a bark because I've heard it many times before. In Obama's case it started on his first world Apology for America tour. Hell his wife didn't experience her first momement of pride for the country until a few years ago.

"i'm so used to misinterpreting everything i hear that it now all sounds the same regardless of actual content".

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

For the same reason when a dog makes a sound I call it a bark because I've heard it many times before..

Speaking of Pavlovian dog whistles ... are you familiar with something called, "The Southern Strategy"?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Speaking of Pavlovian dog whistles ... are you familiar with something called, "The Southern Strategy"?

let me guess. You left the republican party because they stopped using it? I say that because as we all know you've been a Republican most of your life.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Hell his wife didn't experience her first momement of pride for the country until a few years ago.

Now you're just doing it on purpose. Come on.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Now you're just doing it on purpose. Come on.

came straight from the horse's mouth! Of course it was retracted and dismissed like an Obama racist minister or a convicted, felon friend he barely knew and only talked to about one person for one job.

Now against all odds that same, solo person received six seperate subpeonas, to appear before a Grand Jury in both Chicago and Springfield, this past week.