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Old 07-25-2008, 06:49 AM
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Default 7/25: Saratoga (Day 3-Twilight)

Interesting second day as rain continued but at least there was time to adjust for it. Got stronger as day progressed catching several winners before stringing together Late P4 score of $236.75 ($1) which was available for a meager $24 after scratches! Know several jumped aboard, so I'm glad you did well.

May take several weeks of meet to find crazier overlay than Frankel-Live Oak MTO runner LOVING VINDICATION who inexplicably went off at 4.20-1... Stunner of the day was of course Jim Corrao's career maiden Worth a Shot winning the 4th at 35-1.

Twilight card Friday.. 2:45pm first post. Turf only for the featured Lake George.


SARATOGA RACE COURSE


POST-SCRATCHES..


1st: CLM/N2L, 3+, 6f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 Clemens 3-1 WON
Best Value: #2 By Proxy 7-2 6th
Next Best: #1 SCR
Super Add: #7 At Attention 4-1 2nd


2nd: MSW, 2yo, 5.5f-OTT (P4, P3, DD)

OFF THE TURF

Most Likely: #2b-MTO Pious David 4-1 3rd
Best Value: #8 Musca 10-1 9th
Next Best: #1e Pletcher entry 2-1 WON/
Exotics Add: #6 Unbridle's Dream 3-1 7th


3rd: OC/N2X, F&M-3+, 9f (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #3 SCR
Best Value: #1a Iron Butterfly 6-1 4th
Next Best: #4 Mushka 2-1 3rd


4th: MDN CLM, 2yo, 5.5f (P6, P3, DD)

Looking at firsters here and there isn't anyone necessarily "more likely" than any other...

Also, for those that may not be aware, sire Spanish Steps is the unraced full b rother of Unbridled's Song. This is his first crop, and he got his first winner Thursday at Del Mar..


1. #6 Vinnie's Wild Tale 6-1 4th
2. #7 Nightmare Alley 6-1 8th
3. #9 Midtown Bullet 8-1 WON
4. #5 The Spanish Life 50-1 7th


5th: CLM/N2L, 3+, 8.5f-OTT (G/S, P3, DD, Super)

OFF THE TURF

Most Likely: #1a-MTO Osceola Prince 10-1 6th
Best Value: #7 Jump It 8-1 WON
Next Best: #2 Crossing the Atlantic 10-1 4th
Super Add: #15-MTO Last Tram 6-1 5th


<$100 P4 Play:

2: 1-2-4-8
3: 1-4-5-6
4: 6-7-9
5: 1-7

4x4x3x2 = $96

$1 P4 (1-5-9-7) Paid $4,674.00


6th: OC/N3L, 3+, 6f (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Real Estate 2-1 WON
Best Value: #3 Shekinah 20-1 8th
Next Best: #4 Visible Truth 5-2 3rd
Super Add: #5 Hometown Boy 5-1 5th


7th: S/ALW, 3+, 6.5f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 War Ruler 4-1 2nd
Best Value: #5 Call Tiger 10-1 5th
Next Best: #6 Ecton 5-2 6th
Super Add: #3 Fort Apache Star 6-1 WON


8th: 14th Lake George (Gr. II), 3yo-F, 8.5f-T (DD)

Expect turf to be no better than yielding..

Will include the Euro invader in multi-race wagers and play against within the race..

Most Likely: #4 Mousse Au Chocolat 2-1 6th
Next Best: #2 My Princess Jess 8-5 WON
Best Value: #6 Zee Zee 5-1 3rd


9th: NYB-MSW, F&M-3+, 5.5f-OTT

OFF THE TURF

Most Likely: #15 Sashay Renee 4-1 WON
Best Value: #3 Sweet Bama Breeze 6-1 2nd
Next Best: #16 Token Special 6-1 7th
Super Add: #1 Mrs Holden 5-1 11th

ALTERNATE HORSE IF ONE ABOVE SCRATCHES:
#7 Intoxicatingbeauty 12-1 4th


<$50 P4 Play:

6: 1-3-4
7: 1-5
8: 2-4
9: 1-3-15-16

3x2x2x4 = $48

Good luck!
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:42 AM
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Steve, the NYRA scratch site says the 2,5,8,9 are all on turf and that the turf is rated soft, unless I am reading this wrong.
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Old 07-25-2008, 11:53 AM
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The board in the press box says we're on the main for all but the feature.
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:54 PM
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Just looked at NYRA website again, was updated at 1:31 and the only race on turf is the 8th.
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Old 07-25-2008, 01:44 PM
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Very small plays as I've been cold as ice first two days...

Race 1
w/p 7

DD
7/1,6

Pick 3
7/1,6/4

Edit: It continues. If you're looking for a a second place horse, I'm your huckleberry~!
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:14 PM
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Anyone think Contessa has an outside shot here at 17-1? Last work was a bullet over a track with moisture. I am at work and havent seen the track but it cant be completely dry can it?
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:17 PM
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Did the 1 just try to bite the 2?
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:26 PM
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I guess not
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:52 PM
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Today is my play the longshots that dont hit the board day. Going with So Glitzy for the giant killer. Like the turf to dirt angle here and seems fit, I know it was a turf race but they did come home pretty good and she did cut into that lead. Broke her maiden on a "good" track.
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Old 07-25-2008, 02:56 PM
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Nice call.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:04 PM
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To bad im sitting at work handicapping and had no money on her. But I am in a pool with my friends where we pick one horse a day and have $2wps on it and the person with the most winnings at the end of the meet gets over $1000 for a $50 entry. I guess that puts me clearly in the lead since I had her in my pool.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:12 PM
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I like this 9 a little but not enough to take 6-1. It's interesting that the double to him pays the second lowest and nobody else is really close behind. I'm hoping he drifts up to 8-1 or so but doubt it happens.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:18 PM
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I love playing off the board like that, especially out in cali. about month ago second favorite and 11-1 long shot was fav ex over second coice and fav behind it. Threw the fav out and had a $10 straight triple with that horse second and third choice third. Paid $62 for a buck
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:21 PM
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I suck at maidens but I like billy badgetts barn recently and I think he has a shot with the 6 here.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:22 PM
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Alive to the 2-4-10 in the middle leg of a P3... I'm going for a price with a win on the 2.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:24 PM
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Let's take one more shot before here

9

1,6,9 exacta box

I'm due.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:28 PM
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Today is my play the longshots that dont hit the board day. Going with So Glitzy for the giant killer. Like the turf to dirt angle here and seems fit, I know it was a turf race but they did come home pretty good and she did cut into that lead. Broke her maiden on a "good" track.
Very nice job. Both favorites were vulnerable...$38 winner in a 5 horse field from a pick 4 sequence is GOLD.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:28 PM
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I got to the window, saw that the 9 was 4-1 and didn't bet it. Ugh.
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:41 PM
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Chad Brown 2 for 2 Mechanicville native
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Old 07-25-2008, 03:43 PM
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Quote:
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Let's take one more shot before here

9

1,6,9 exacta box

I'm due.
Nice. ex $104
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