Public Option

[Riot]

It's baaaack .....




One of my employees hurt her knee the other day. She and her husband could afford and would gladly pay a couple hundred a month for health insurance. Unfortunately, they can't get any for that amount in this state. She needs an ortho consult. She won't get one. Can't really afford the $60-$100 for the exam, and the $250 for rads right now (yes, we called around). I told her to e-mail Mitch McConnell and ask him what to do.

[SOREHOOF]

Opt me out!

[Riot]

You won't be affected unless you'd like to get involved Your insurance payments may decrease without your permission, however

I'm just surprised (really) at this sudden testosterone surge within the Dems. Worry about this fall? Gotta be.

[SOREHOOF]

[quote=Riot]You won't be affected unless you'd like to get involved Your insurance payments may decrease without your permission, however


I'm not holding my breath on that one.

[Riot]

[quote=SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

You won't be affected unless you'd like to get involved Your insurance payments may decrease without your permission, however


I'm not holding my breath on that one.

There are so many plans currently in the works, we'll have to see what falls out. Hopefully something very worthwhile. I'm glad to see the Dems finally hitch it up and embrace reconciliation.

[SOREHOOF]

Why don't we add in a little Tort Reform, and a little Old Fashioned "Competition" into the mix? Naah. The lawyers drive up the price of insurance and blame the insurance cos. Lifes the racket that you make it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Why don't we add in a little Tort Reform, and a little Old Fashioned "Competition" into the mix? Naah. The lawyers drive up the price of insurance and blame the insurance cos. Lifes the racket that you make it.

Keep your hopes up. Good dose of tort reform in all plans, and the main public option plan is predicated on pools where the insurance companies will compete. But of course, we will have to see what the final deal ends up as.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's baaaack .....




One of my employees hurt her knee the other day. She and her husband could afford and would gladly pay a couple hundred a month for health insurance. Unfortunately, they can't get any for that amount in this state. She needs an ortho consult. She won't get one. Can't really afford the $60-$100 for the exam, and the $250 for rads right now (yes, we called around). I told her to e-mail Mitch McConnell and ask him what to do.

So you want us to pay?

Look if she can only afford a couple a hundo a month she can't afford premium health insurance. She can still afford catastrophic insurance so go with that and a ace bandage. I want a Bugati but can only afford a Kia so I drive a Kia. Personally I'm shocked YOU as her employer don't provde her insurance. LMAO And don't bother McConnell just call Auntie Obama and see how she is getting care.

PS Obama is really starting to 'listen' to the people and sticking to his guns forcing this through. Well listening to 30 some percent of the people. Just hope the 60 plus percent who don't want this passed remember that come election time. We'll see how that works out. Stop the begging already.

[SOREHOOF]

Obamacare would tell her to get an Ace bandage after she waited weeks to see a Dr.

[SOREHOOF]

If she hurt her knee at work maybe a Comp. case and a lawsuit would be her best bet.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

It's baaaack .....




One of my employees hurt her knee the other day. She and her husband could afford and would gladly pay a couple hundred a month for health insurance. Unfortunately, they can't get any for that amount in this state. She needs an ortho consult. She won't get one. Can't really afford the $60-$100 for the exam, and the $250 for rads right now (yes, we called around). I told her to e-mail Mitch McConnell and ask him what to do.

a dichotomy for sure.

sounds like you need to give her a raise!

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Danzig

a dichotomy for sure.

sounds like you need to give her a raise!

LOL

[Riot]

So you guys don't think that basic health insurance for young healthy people, who are willing and eager to pay, shouldn't be affordable and available to them?

You prefer these folks remain uninsured? That insurance companies just drop everyone who they have to pay out upon?

BTW, no, she didn't get hurt at work.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

a dichotomy for sure.

sounds like you need to give her a raise!

She makes plenty for her job description. Her salary is definitely at the generous end of what her position can earn

Nope. Health insurance is just outrageously expensive.

[Riot]

So you want us to pay?

No, dear. She wants to pay. All by herself.

Look if she can only afford a couple a hundo a month she can't afford premium health insurance.

And you don't see that as a problem in the United States? (for a basic plan - nobody is talking "premium")

Personally I'm shocked YOU as her employer don't provde her insurance.

That's at odds with your first sentence. You believe, then, in taking from those that have, and making them provide for others? Rather than people being independent and being able to support themselves?

PS Obama is really starting to 'listen' to the people and sticking to his guns forcing this through. Well listening to 30 some percent of the people. Just hope the 60 plus percent who don't want this passed remember that come election time. We'll see how that works out. Stop the begging already.

I think it will work out wonderfully. Nearly 80% of the public supports the public option. The Dems will - hopefully - give it to them.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, dear. She wants to pay. All by herself.



And you don't see that as a problem in the United States? (for a basic plan - nobody is talking "premium")



That's at odds with your first sentence. You believe, then, in taking from those that have, and making them provide for others? Rather than people being independent and being able to support themselves?



I think it will work out wonderfully. Nearly 80% of the public supports the public option. The Dems will - hopefully - give it to them.

Confucious say "She who parses sentences misses whole point"

80%? How about a link?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Confucious say "She who parses sentences misses whole point"

80%? How about a link?

The only whole point is my buddy Dell doesn't care for anything Obama does

There's parsing, and then there's pointing out the reality. We are currently paying for the uninsured. I don't like paying for other people now. It makes my health care more expensive.

We won't be continuing to pay for them, if they can buy their own basic plans, if they are not dropped by their insurance company for reaching dollar limits, if the insurance companies (see what just happened in California) can't just get rid of alot of their more expensive insured on a whim to make more profit.

Nearly 80%? Geesh, just do a search on "public option poll" - you'll get tons of hits and articles. It's specifically "do you want a public option", however, note that (different than the numbers Dell posted, which are accurate for "health reform")

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

The only whole point is my buddy Dell doesn't care for anything Obama does

There's parsing, and then there's pointing out the reality. We are currently paying for the uninsured. I don't like paying for other people now. It makes my health care more expensive.

We won't be continuing to pay for them, if they can buy their own basic plans, if they are not dropped by their insurance company for reaching dollar limits, if the insurance companies (see what just happened in California) can't just get rid of alot of their more expensive insured on a whim to make more profit.

Nearly 80%? Geesh, just do a search on "public option poll" - you'll get tons of hits and articles. It's specifically "do you want a public option", however, note that (different than the numbers Dell posted, which are accurate for "health reform")

Well, I know in California, and probably other states, hospitals go belly up or stop trauma care totally because the state won't pay for it. Is the state to blame because it wouldn't cover expenses either way for trauma wards?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Well listening to 30 some percent of the people. Just hope the 60 plus percent who don't want this passed remember that come election time.

He got 53.4% of the voters. Are you saying that 13.4% (of more ) of those didn't know he was gunna try to do this? I don't buy it. They made their choice. You can have all the carefully crafted polls n ' bullsit commercials you want, but the official poll was taken. The only reason we don't have health care passed is because of the built-in Conservative Bias in the basic design of the Senate. When you artificially inflate the power of voters in small population states, then you can't say "the people" spoke, because you've not listened to all the people. When we voted for President (he got 53.4 %,) he ran on this type of health care reform (stronger than this, yet you say they are against this.) We have had the poll. People just refuse to accept it. Each time he makes a speech, he needs to repeat what his health care position was when he got elected.These aren't people who care about the truth, they are constant distorters. Each day, every damn day, he needs to correct their crap. They aren't doing anything useful. Their #1 job seems to be to do daily distortion. So, though it is a nuisance, he needs to (each day, every day) answer their incessant lies, half truths, and distortions. He seems to think they will stop. They don't stop. They aren't gunna "come around," and help you one bit. How the fk did this guy not know this? Accept it. He gives people (in general) way too many chances to fk with him...The guy needs to forget Hawaii exists, and forget he ever took up golf. That sht has got to go.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

That's at odds with your first sentence. You believe, then, in taking from those that have, and making them provide for others? Rather than people being independent and being able to support themselves?


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This might be your tops. Everyone knows if you get educated and find a good job the perc of that is getting insurance. That is how this country works & that is why its important to get an education and find a good job.

There is NO "taking from those who have and makeing them provide to others" in that. He/She works hard to get that employer "what they have". and for that they deserve insurance from the employer.

& that 80% support a public option is a crock of **** riot and you know it. Unless you meant 80% do not support it then maybe you are a little bit closer to reality.