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Old 01-31-2011, 09:07 AM
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Likely for Donn H. per Mike Welsch on ATR:

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Giant Oak
Rule
Fly Down
Morning Line
Eldaafer
I Want Revenge
Square Eddie
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:46 AM
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Eldaafer?
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:58 AM
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Eldaafer?
That's 'Breeders' Cup Champion' Eldaafer to you!
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:04 AM
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Eldaafer?
You read Square Eddie up there but Eldaafer is the only one you questioned?
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:16 AM
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You read Square Eddie up there but Eldaafer is the only one you questioned?
Square Eddie is coming off a track record performance at Santa Anita. Eldaafer well, yeah, he's never been competitive at all with graded stakes company at distances shorter than 12 furlongs.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:35 AM
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Both fists on any Diane Alvarado horse.

Will Fly Down switch leads to get up for 3rd. Stay tuned.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:38 AM
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Square Eddie is coming off a track record performance at Santa Anita. Eldaafer well, yeah, he's never been competitive at all with graded stakes company at distances shorter than 12 furlongs.
I definitely never said that Eldaafer shouldn't be questioned. I just don't think Square Eddie belongs here after however many months off + one 6 furlong blitz at SA. Hope he proves me wrong though...the division could obviousy use a few more horses that can actually run.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:09 AM
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The Hals Hope seems to be a very productive race. 6 horse field with 3 of them coming back next out with 2 winners and a third. Caixa Electronica won on 1/23/2010 in a AOC by 2.5 lengths at 6-1. Tackelberry won the Sunshines Classic by 2.25 lengths at 25-1 and Dream Maestro in the same race ran a closing third at 60-1. With Rule and Morning Line in the Donn and both coming out of the Hals Hope running lengths better than those other three mentioned above, maybe we can expect a very good effort by these two.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:36 AM
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No Gone Astray the horse has 10 pub works and still NADA?
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:40 AM
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No Gone Astray the horse has 10 pub works and still NADA?
There's bound to be a 65k stake at Tampa he can clunk up for 3rd in or something, right?
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:49 AM
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Likely for Donn H. per Mike Welsch on ATR:

NOMINEE PP'S

Giant Oak
Rule
Fly Down
Morning Line
Eldaafer
I Want Revenge
Square Eddie
Should be one for the ages!!!
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:57 AM
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Should be one for the ages!!!
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:00 PM
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There's bound to be a 65k stake at Tampa he can clunk up for 3rd in or something, right?
I thought Shug had him going well? DrugS said he ran a good race at SPA ang then he ran a few good two turn races. The horses all sux in the Handicap div so i was hopeful but like you say it looks bleak
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:16 PM
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I thought Shug had him going well? DrugS said he ran a good race at SPA ang then he ran a few good two turn races. The horses all sux in the Handicap div so i was hopeful but like you say it looks bleak
I think you're mixing up years. The last time he ran at Saratoga was the Curlin when he lost to Blame in 2009. He then won the Pa Derby and was considered a racehorse. Last year his personal highlight was the Doug Salvatore Mile which he followed up with three consecutive losses to end the season.

You're right, the handicap division sucks but he got drilled by Arson Squad and beaten by Well Positioned at the end of last year.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:37 PM
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Should be one for the ages!!!
I know the exacta I'll be rooting for.
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Not that it matters, but I seem to remember reading Gone Astray was being pointed to this as well.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:47 PM
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Not that it matters, but I seem to remember reading Gone Astray was being pointed to this as well.
This group is horrendous, he must really suck
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:13 PM
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This group is horrendous, he must really suck
That's actually not true. It is very thin but there are two or three horses in the race that can run fairly well.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:16 PM
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Likely for Donn H. per Mike Welsch on ATR:

NOMINEE PP'S

Giant Oak
Rule
Fly Down
Morning Line
Eldaafer
I Want Revenge
Square Eddie
Thanks! I'm psyched to see Fly Down as I've been a fan since he broke his maiden at CD.
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Old 01-31-2011, 01:18 PM
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That's actually not true. It is very thin but there are two or three horses in the race that can run fairly well.
Fly Down, Morning Line, and Rule are miles better than any of the horses that Quality Road beat in last year's Donn.
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