George Bush plagarizes his own memoir?

[Riot]

This is unfortunate news for Bush and the legacy he's trying to create, if it grows legs (it is HuffPo).

Ryan Grimm has a story breaking, revealing multiple hunks of the Bush memoir, "Decision Points", are now appearing to simply be cut-and-pasted copies of stuff from other people's books. Not Bushes own written memoir.

The former Pres is out on book tour now, hitting all the TV shows last week, etc. I haven't ordered it yet (finishing the Keith Richards autobio, which is fantastic) - but sure won't waste my cash on this yokel if this is true.

Bad enough Bush admits to war crimes in his book, and starting the Iraq war knowing there are no WMD. Can't believe I voted for this incompetent loser - twice. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... you won't be fooled again".

When Crown Publishing inked a deal with George W. Bush for his memoirs, the publisher knew it wasn't getting Faulkner. But the book, at least, promises "gripping, never-before-heard detail" about the former president's key decisions, offering to bring readers "aboard Air Force One on 9/11, in the hours after America's most devastating attack since Pearl Harbor; at the head of the table in the Situation Room in the moments before launching the war in Iraq," and other undisclosed and weighty locations.

Instead, Crown got a mash-up of worn-out anecdotes from previously published memoirs written by his subordinates, from which Bush lifts quotes word for word, passing them off as his own recollections. He took equal license in lifting from nonfiction books about his presidency or newspaper or magazine articles from the time.

Far from shedding light on how the president approached the crucial "decision points" of his presidency, the clip job illuminates something shallower and less surprising about Bush's character: He's too lazy to write his own memoir.

Bush, on his book tour, makes much of the fact that he largely wrote the book himself, guffawing that critics who suspected he didn't know how to read are now getting a comeuppance. .

Much more at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1...1.html#s180908

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

This is unfortunate news for Bush and the legacy he's trying to create, if it grows legs (it is HuffPo).

Ryan Grimm has a story breaking, revealing multiple hunks of the Bush memoir, "Decision Points", are now appearing to simply be cut-and-pasted copies of stuff from other people's books. Not Bushes own written memoir.

The former Pres is out on book tour now, hitting all the TV shows last week, etc. I haven't ordered it yet (finishing the Keith Richards autobio, which is fantastic) - but sure won't waste my cash on this yokel if this is true.

Bad enough Bush admits to war crimes in his book, and starting the Iraq war knowing there are no WMD. Can't believe I voted for this incompetent loser - twice. "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... you won't be fooled again".



Much more at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1...1.html#s180908

That is completely ridiculous. Nobody's memory is perfect. If I'm trying to recall the details of an event that took place several years ago, I would certainly want to see if the other people that were there with me had the same recollection of the events as I did. If I have the same recollection as the other people that were there and I write about the event, that is not plagiarism.

If your friend writes a blog about what you guys did last week at the BC and she says :Riot picked me up for dinner at 7:00pm" and then you write that you guys went to dinner at 7:00pm, is that plagiarism? Of course not.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is completely ridiculous. Nobody's memory is perfect. If I'm trying to recall the details of an event that took place several years ago, I would certainly want to see if the other people that were there with me had the same recollection of the events as I did. If I have the same recollection as the other people that were there and I write about the event, that is not plagairism.

If your friend writes a blog about what you guys did last week at the BC and she says :Riot picked me up for dinner at 7:00pm" and then you write that you guys went to dinner at 7:00pm, is that plagiarism? Of course not.

That is completely ridiculous. Nobody's memory is perfect. If I'm trying to recall the details of an event that took place several years ago, I would certainly want to see if the other people that were there with me had the same recollection of the events as I did. If I have the same recollection as the other people that were there and I write about the event, that is not plagairism.

If your friend writes a blog about what you guys did last week at the BC and she says :Riot picked me up for dinner at 7:00pm" and then you write that you guys went to dinner at 7:00pm, is that plagiarism? Of course not.




^^ I just plagarized

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That is completely ridiculous. Nobody's memory is perfect. .

Of course people are going to quote others accurately (hopefully) in multiple sources, so they will be the same.

But when it's whole hunks of other peoples books, newspaper articles, etc., taken word for word? That's different.

We'll have to see what happens here. What did you think of the multiple examples (the comparison quoted passages) in the article?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

Of course people are going to quote others accurately (hopefully) in multiple sources, so they will be the same.

But when it's whole hunks of other peoples books, newspaper articles, etc., taken word for word? That's different.

We'll have to see what happens here. What did you think of the multiple examples (the comparison quoted passages) in the article?

The General Franks quote was obviously an exact quote but why wouldn't it be? The quote was from a meeting that Franks had with the National Security Team. If there was a written record of Franks' exact quote (either from Frank's book or from someone taking notes in the meeting) and Bush is recounting what Franks said in that meeting, why wouldn't Bush look it up so he could get the quote exactly right?

The fact that Bush and his co-writers looked up the exact quote so that they would get it right is a good thing, not a bad thing.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

She voted for him twice? WTF?

[bigrun]

Update on new book...

[AeWingnut]

fainting goat says , what?