Separation of Church and State

[dellinger63]

Does not that transfer to Mosque and State? You'd think this was from the Onion if Obama wasn't President.

If they receive a Federal Grant in the name of 911, in the economic condition we are in right now there should be a 10 million angry man march on Washington immediately.

The developers behind the proposed Ground Zero mosque have applied for about $5 million in federal grant money set aside for redeveloping downtown Manhattan after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, according to a new report.


http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/m...QGaiL45Xcf31VM

[Antitrust32]

but I thought all the liberals were saying that the mosque isnt anywhere near ground zero!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Does not that transfer to Mosque and State? You'd think this was from the Onion if Obama wasn't President.

If they receive a Federal Grant in the name of 911, in the economic condition we are in right now there should be a 10 million angry man march on Washington immediately.

Start rallying your fellow Muslim haters to the cause. On your way to Washington to fight for separation of church and state, stop your march off in Kentucky, and protest the millions of state tax dollars going to subsidize the Creationist Ark Park. That should equally infuriate you.

You really need to also understand the basic sound economic concept that, during a recession, spending money and building things is good: it makes jobs and keeps us from falling deeper into recession or depression. Doing nothing, spending no money during a recession, is bad. Saving during a recession is bad. Not buying things during a recession is bad. Taking people off unemployment thus taking dollars out of the economy immediately during a recession is bad.

That's why the government tries to free up money, to infuse money, etc.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Start rallying your fellow Muslim haters to the cause. On your way to Washington to fight for separation of church and state, stop your march off in Kentucky, and protest the millions of state tax dollars going to subsidize the Creationist Ark Park. That should equally infuriate you.

Is this park going to pay sales/property taxes or is it affiliated with a church and tax exempt? Also is this grant money KY gave them or tax incentives for opening the park there?

BTW How many jobs will the Ark Park provide compared to the Islam Center?

Certainly even you can see the difference. No?

[Riot]

Is this park going to pay sales/property taxes or is it affiliated with a church and tax exempt?

Is the community center going to pay property taxes?

Also is this grant money KY gave them or tax incentives for opening the park there?

Tax incentives going to a religious organization (not grant money as in NY)

BTW How many jobs will the Ark Park provide compared to the Islam Center?

That's doesn't matter at all, does it? Has nothing at all to do with it.

Thousands will use that community center, and it is going to have Christian and Jewish community contact organizations based there, too? (didn't know that, did you?) It's an expansion of what was already there.

Wasn't your argument church vs state?

Certainly even you can see the difference. No?

I assume you must also be against the local catholic churches w/community services that were damaged in 9-11 and are near ground zero getting same federal grant funds, right?

And you would be in favor of a Muslim-Koran-themed amusement park getting developmental tax breaks of over $34 million in Kentucky, right?

[dellinger63]

I don't think Government grant money should be given to any place of worship or to even say a Catholic school.

I also would not object to a muslim amusement park including using tax incentives and perhaps would visit just out of curiosity. I'd also suggest Detroit MI for a location as I suspect like KY they may have a need for business (of any legal kind) unlike Manhattan.

BTW the man behind the mosque development has two banks after him as he has defaulted on two seperate loans and thus this project may be doomed anyway. At least I finally have some good ole fashion Obama hope!

[Riot]

I don't think Government grant money should be given to any place of worship or to even say a Catholic school.

Either do I. The grant is not for the mosque, but for the community center part, isn't it?

I also would not object to a muslim amusement park including using tax incentives and perhaps would visit just out of curiosity. I'd also suggest Detroit MI for a location as I suspect like KY they may have a need for business (of any legal kind) unlike Manhattan.

I can't imagine any other religion wanting a theme park

The people involved in this said they did a survey, and that area in northern Kentucky just outside Cincinnati is apparently the best place in the country to attract the type of people that would want to visit a Creation Museum.

The Creation Museum teaches school field trips that the earth is only 6,000 years old, dinosaurs were on the Ark in the form of eggs, dinosaurs and man walked the earth together, and carbon dating is simply false.

In fact, the Creation Museum was so successful, now we have the Ark Park that wants to be right next door. With live animals and a 200-yard long real Ark. Yipee.