How come nobody likes Pleasant Prince?

#1 05-14-2010, 09:44 PM

Could have won FLA derby in photo with ICE BOX, throw out Blue Grass on Poly and Derby Trial was too short. If Leparoux (believe he is OK) can find a seam, and gets a decent pace, expect him to hit the board. Why not and the price is right. Should appreciate added ground and if ICE BOX was best in the derby this guy is getting no respect.

Danzig · #2 05-14-2010, 10:29 PM

“We’re probably not going to win the race. If I was betting, I wouldn’t be going in with both hands,” he said. “I try to be realistic. He’s probably not going to be the first, second, third, or fourth choice. He’s running against some very good horses, many of them more accomplished than us.”

that's ken ramsey, owner of pleasant prince.

mclem0822 · #3 05-14-2010, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

“We’re probably not going to win the race. If I was betting, I wouldn’t be going in with both hands,” he said. “I try to be realistic. He’s probably not going to be the first, second, third, or fourth choice. He’s running against some very good horses, many of them more accomplished than us.”

that's ken ramsey, owner of pleasant prince.

It's reverse Phsycology.

Indian Charlie · #4 05-14-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822

It's reverse Phsycology.

Sounds like a case for Dr. Scuds.

He might even correct your spelling for no charge, if you are lucky.

letswastemoney · #5 05-14-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

“We’re probably not going to win the race. If I was betting, I wouldn’t be going in with both hands,” he said. “I try to be realistic. He’s probably not going to be the first, second, third, or fourth choice. He’s running against some very good horses, many of them more accomplished than us.”

that's ken ramsey, owner of pleasant prince.

Well I'm convinced ::empties out life savings:::

Thunder Gulch · #6 05-14-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

“We’re probably not going to win the race. If I was betting, I wouldn’t be going in with both hands,” he said. “I try to be realistic. He’s probably not going to be the first, second, third, or fourth choice. He’s running against some very good horses, many of them more accomplished than us.”

that's ken ramsey, owner of pleasant prince.

Is this his Preakness or Derby Trial prediction?

#7 05-14-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Is this his Preakness or Derby Trial prediction?

Preakness...Ward said the following
“He is absolutely awesome,” trainer Wesley Ward said at the barn at Lexington, Ky., yesterday. “He doesn’t have a pimple on him. He looks beautiful.

“In his work the other day, he started behind two other horses and finished 10 lengths in front of them at the end. This was as beautiful a work as you’re ever going to see.”

dalakhani · #8 05-14-2010, 11:37 PM

If that track plays like it did today, it would take an incredible effort for him to finish fifth.

philcski · #9 05-14-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

If that track plays like it did today, it would take an incredible effort for him to finish fifth.

No question that inside speed was tough today. You had to be glued to the rail. Pimlico gets that way a lot.

chucklestheclown · #10 05-15-2010, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SundaySilence

If Leparoux (believe he is OK) can find a seam

There has got to be a cat joke in here somewhere. I'll leave the part about Ice Box alone (because I bet him out of fear).

Gaining Ground · #11 05-15-2010, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

No question that inside speed was tough today. You had to be glued to the rail. Pimlico gets that way a lot.

the track seemed pretty fair to me. definitely didnt think there was a strong rail bias.

Thunder Gulch · #12 05-15-2010, 08:37 AM

The fastest got to the rail and won. No real surprises to suggest a bias down there.

Travis Stone · #13 05-15-2010, 08:50 AM

Pleasant Prince needs what he's unlikely to get, unless some craziness happens, and that's a really fast pace up front.

Danzig · #14 05-15-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Is this his Preakness or Derby Trial prediction?

preakness.

Gaining Ground · #15 05-15-2010, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

The fastest got to the rail and won. No real surprises to suggest a bias down there.

id watch the replays again. no bias in races 1,2,9 or 12. the races where speed held the horses were either the favorite or close to. seems like formful racing, not a bias.

philcski · #16 05-15-2010, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

the track seemed pretty fair to me. definitely didnt think there was a strong rail bias.

I could definitely be wrong. Reviewing the charts and video this morning, it doesn't appear as strong as I felt yesterday. Just thought that those on the inside were getting the better of it, which does happen at Pimlico sometimes. The first two races were definitely won wide though.

PSH · #17 05-15-2010, 12:58 PM

Looks like speed on the dirt hasn't backed up yet either.
I suspect you want to be on or real close to the lead...

#18 05-15-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PSH

Looks like speed on the dirt hasn't backed up yet either.
I suspect you want to be on or real close to the lead...

I think you are right, I don't see a lot of ground being made up in the stretch, although the 5-Zito's in Chick Lang made a nice run to get an easy 2nd. So far all logical on dirt and want to be up close.

I think with the anticipated fractions you better be at most 2 lengths out of it at the top of the stretch.

Buffymommy · #19 05-15-2010, 04:37 PM

I didn't throw this horse out, but I didn't go with him either. I don't think he will do it.