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SundaySilence 05-14-2010 09:44 PM

How come nobody likes Pleasant Prince?
 
Could have won FLA derby in photo with ICE BOX, throw out Blue Grass on Poly and Derby Trial was too short. If Leparoux (believe he is OK) can find a seam, and gets a decent pace, expect him to hit the board. Why not and the price is right. Should appreciate added ground and if ICE BOX was best in the derby this guy is getting no respect.

Danzig 05-14-2010 10:29 PM

“We’re probably not going to win the race. If I was betting, I wouldn’t be going in with both hands,” he said. “I try to be realistic. He’s probably not going to be the first, second, third, or fourth choice. He’s running against some very good horses, many of them more accomplished than us.”

that's ken ramsey, owner of pleasant prince.

mclem0822 05-14-2010 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 647747)
“We’re probably not going to win the race. If I was betting, I wouldn’t be going in with both hands,” he said. “I try to be realistic. He’s probably not going to be the first, second, third, or fourth choice. He’s running against some very good horses, many of them more accomplished than us.”

that's ken ramsey, owner of pleasant prince.

It's reverse Phsycology.:rolleyes:

Indian Charlie 05-14-2010 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mclem0822 (Post 647752)
It's reverse Phsycology.:rolleyes:

Sounds like a case for Dr. Scuds.

He might even correct your spelling for no charge, if you are lucky.

letswastemoney 05-14-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 647747)
“We’re probably not going to win the race. If I was betting, I wouldn’t be going in with both hands,” he said. “I try to be realistic. He’s probably not going to be the first, second, third, or fourth choice. He’s running against some very good horses, many of them more accomplished than us.”

that's ken ramsey, owner of pleasant prince.

Well I'm convinced ::empties out life savings:::

Thunder Gulch 05-14-2010 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 647747)
“We’re probably not going to win the race. If I was betting, I wouldn’t be going in with both hands,” he said. “I try to be realistic. He’s probably not going to be the first, second, third, or fourth choice. He’s running against some very good horses, many of them more accomplished than us.”

that's ken ramsey, owner of pleasant prince.

Is this his Preakness or Derby Trial prediction?

SundaySilence 05-14-2010 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 647789)
Is this his Preakness or Derby Trial prediction?

Preakness...Ward said the following
“He is absolutely awesome,” trainer Wesley Ward said at the barn at Lexington, Ky., yesterday. “He doesn’t have a pimple on him. He looks beautiful.

“In his work the other day, he started behind two other horses and finished 10 lengths in front of them at the end. This was as beautiful a work as you’re ever going to see.”

dalakhani 05-14-2010 11:37 PM

If that track plays like it did today, it would take an incredible effort for him to finish fifth.

philcski 05-14-2010 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 647806)
If that track plays like it did today, it would take an incredible effort for him to finish fifth.

No question that inside speed was tough today. You had to be glued to the rail. Pimlico gets that way a lot.

chucklestheclown 05-15-2010 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SundaySilence (Post 647703)
If Leparoux (believe he is OK) can find a seam

There has got to be a cat joke in here somewhere. I'll leave the part about Ice Box alone (because I bet him out of fear).

Gaining Ground 05-15-2010 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 647814)
No question that inside speed was tough today. You had to be glued to the rail. Pimlico gets that way a lot.

the track seemed pretty fair to me. definitely didnt think there was a strong rail bias.

Thunder Gulch 05-15-2010 08:37 AM

The fastest got to the rail and won. No real surprises to suggest a bias down there.

Travis Stone 05-15-2010 08:50 AM

Pleasant Prince needs what he's unlikely to get, unless some craziness happens, and that's a really fast pace up front.

Danzig 05-15-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 647789)
Is this his Preakness or Derby Trial prediction?

preakness.

Gaining Ground 05-15-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 647870)
The fastest got to the rail and won. No real surprises to suggest a bias down there.

id watch the replays again. no bias in races 1,2,9 or 12. the races where speed held the horses were either the favorite or close to. seems like formful racing, not a bias.

philcski 05-15-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground (Post 647827)
the track seemed pretty fair to me. definitely didnt think there was a strong rail bias.

I could definitely be wrong. Reviewing the charts and video this morning, it doesn't appear as strong as I felt yesterday. Just thought that those on the inside were getting the better of it, which does happen at Pimlico sometimes. The first two races were definitely won wide though.

PSH 05-15-2010 12:58 PM

Pimlico
 
Looks like speed on the dirt hasn't backed up yet either.
I suspect you want to be on or real close to the lead...

SundaySilence 05-15-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PSH (Post 647986)
Looks like speed on the dirt hasn't backed up yet either.
I suspect you want to be on or real close to the lead...

I think you are right, I don't see a lot of ground being made up in the stretch, although the 5-Zito's in Chick Lang made a nice run to get an easy 2nd. So far all logical on dirt and want to be up close.

I think with the anticipated fractions you better be at most 2 lengths out of it at the top of the stretch.

Buffymommy 05-15-2010 04:37 PM

I didn't throw this horse out, but I didn't go with him either. I don't think he will do it.


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