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Old 09-05-2009, 05:25 AM
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Default How to lose 62 turf routes in a row and counting

I suppose this could be the title of John Velazquez's first book.

He's currently 1-for-63 in two-turn turf races this meet at Saratoga.

After not riding in the 1st race on opening day, he won a nose bob going two-turns on the turf with 3/5 favorite Freedom Rings. He's ridden 62 straight losers and counting since.

Most troubling ... even in important Grade 2 stake races where he's riding the controlling speed ... he still insists on going 5 wide ... like he did on Cowboy Cal the whole way around the 1st turn.





If Velazquez ever catches a turf course where the 5 path is actually the best place to be ... he will get hot fast.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:34 AM
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Wow..that is unbelievable!
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Old 09-05-2009, 12:23 PM
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He lost his cock and balls a few years ago at Keeneland.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:10 PM
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And he loses yet again.. If I am an owner I would tell Pletcher that in no way I want him on my horse on the turf. What a joke.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:10 PM
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yeah, Andy has talked about this a few times today, tough times for Johnny v.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:11 PM
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Prado can't be far behind.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:12 PM
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JV and Prado put on a great show right there, JV 22 and change to the quarter in a 1 1/8th race, and Prado 3 wide from the 3 post....
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:15 PM
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And I like Little Miss Julien in the Night-cap... Oh well
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:16 PM
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JV and Prado put on a great show right there, JV 22 and change to the quarter in a 1 1/8th race, and Prado 3 wide from the 3 post....
Desormeaux then pushed Prado four wide like he wasn't there, that was just ugly.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:18 PM
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People that still play these guys at short prices on the grass deserve to lose their money.
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Old 09-05-2009, 01:18 PM
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And I like Little Miss Julien in the Night-cap... Oh well
That's a sprint, not a route, fire away.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:01 PM
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Do I hear 63.....??????
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:31 PM
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Out of all the horses he's lost on during the "streak", he gets this one across the line first??????? Remarkable.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:35 PM
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Yeah, a $2.2 million yearling out of a dam who ran for a tag and has produced nothing.

4 wide on both turns and it didn't matter. Streak ends at 65
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2 for 63.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:43 PM
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:24 PM
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Yeah, a $2.2 million yearling out of a dam who ran for a tag and has produced nothing.

4 wide on both turns and it didn't matter. Streak ends at 65

I think he was 5 wide on the final turn.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:22 PM
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its not just turf. he has alot of seconds on the dirt. he misses the break and in the maiden races thats the kiss of death. if linda rice wins the title she can thank him.
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