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Old 05-07-2017, 10:35 PM
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Just feels like a couple years ago, you have a pretty nice horse in the Derby winner and not much else, in fact the crop seems even weaker than AP triple crown year. Its hard to find much to nag about with the Derby winner and he just doesnt have to beat much the next two races.

Quick turnaround is the issue given the barn never does that much.
Already we are dismissing the horses? I think these are better than what AP faced.

Malagacy?Gunnevara? Classic Empire? Are those are weak horses? No way.
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Old 05-08-2017, 12:11 AM
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Already we are dismissing the horses? I think these are better than what AP faced.

Malagacy?Gunnevara? Classic Empire? Are those are weak horses? No way.
I think those horses suck in context, really, I do. Classic Empire is the only one with talent but obviously cant put it all together.
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Old 05-08-2017, 06:59 PM
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Just feels like a couple years ago, you have a pretty nice horse in the Derby winner and not much else, in fact the crop seems even weaker than AP triple crown year. Its hard to find much to nag about with the Derby winner and he just doesnt have to beat much the next two races.

Quick turnaround is the issue given the barn never does that much.
I think it's too early to tell for 1 reason- the mud.

Probably 3/4 of the trainers will say "my horse hated the mud" and will try again in the Belmont. I think a lot legitimately believe that.

If/when Always Dreaming smokes them on a dry track, then I'll agree
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Old 05-08-2017, 07:36 PM
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Cloud Computing feels like a very likely winner of the Preakness.
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Old 05-16-2018, 02:25 AM
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I think it's too early to tell for 1 reason- the mud.

Probably 3/4 of the trainers will say "my horse hated the mud" and will try again in the Belmont. I think a lot legitimately believe that.

If/when Always Dreaming smokes them on a dry track, then I'll agree
What a difference a year makes and here we are again.
Justify obviously is the goods, but that was a grueling grueling race, the toughest
event of his young career, can he step up again and be competitive
we shall see.

Not since, I believe smarty jones has a horse won the Preakness
after a Muddy Derby Win.

past casualties mine that bird, super saver, orb, always dreaming
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Old 05-07-2017, 10:32 PM
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5/20: Preakness Possibles/Probables

Always Dreaming (Pletcher)
Classic Empire (Casse)*
Lookin At Lee (Asmussen)*
Gunnevara (Sano)*
Royal Mo (Shirreffs)
Three Rules (Pinchin)
Senior Investment (McPeek)
Cloud Computing (Brown)
Conquest Mo Money (Hernandez)
Malagacy (Pletcher)
Pletcher running Malagacy against the derby winner is dangerous. Todd has a big pair of...
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Old 05-08-2017, 10:58 AM
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@Steve_Byk No @PreaknessStakes for Malagacy per Todd Pletcher; Master Plan returns to Belmont this morning for Peter Pan/@BelmontStakes @TheNYRA..
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5/20/17 - Preakness Stakes

Always Dreaming (Pletcher/Velazquez)
Classic Empire (Casse/Leparoux)*
Hence (Asmussen/Geroux)
Lookin At Lee (Asmussen/Lanerie)
Gunnevara (Sano/M. Smith)
Royal Mo (Shirreffs/Stevens)
Senior Investment (McPeek/Hill)
Cloud Computing (Brown/Castellano)
Conquest Mo Money (Hernandez/Carreno)
Multiplier (Walsh/Graham)
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:39 PM
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5/20/17 - Preakness Stakes

Always Dreaming (Pletcher/Velazquez)
Classic Empire (Casse/Leparoux)*
Hence (Asmussen/Geroux)
Lookin At Lee (Asmussen/Lanerie)
Gunnevara (Sano/M. Smith)
Royal Mo (Shirreffs/Stevens)
Senior Investment (McPeek/Hill)
Cloud Computing (Brown/Castellano)
Conquest Mo Money (Hernandez/Carreno)
Multiplier (Walsh/Graham)
A.D. is going to smoke this field.
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:41 AM
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A.D. is going to smoke this field.
unless it comes up muddy again, he will be hot and dirty. Would have been nice if Someone mentioned he had a good mud foot . One would think with all the people there, that someone would have noticed. I guess you don't notice unless you put your racing form or iPad down once in a while and look at the hosses.
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unless it comes up muddy again, he will be hot and dirty. Would have been nice if Someone mentioned he had a good mud foot . One would think with all the people there, that someone would have noticed. I guess you don't notice unless you put your racing form or iPad down once in a while and look at the hosses.




I don't get the insult, but OK..and I don't have an IPAD
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Old 05-08-2017, 11:18 PM
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@Steve_Byk No @PreaknessStakes for Malagacy per Todd Pletcher; Master Plan returns to Belmont this morning for Peter Pan/@BelmontStakes @TheNYRA..

Pletcher running Malagacy against the derby winner is dangerous. Todd has a big pair of...


...they just got a little smaller but much smarter!
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Gary Stevens: Royal Mo has fractured sesamoid, headed to New Bolton
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Royal Mo fractured a sesamoid bone in his right front ankle when working at Pimlico Race Course this morning in preparation for the Preakness Stakes next Saturday and is currently en route to New Bolton Center in Pennsylvania, according to Gary Stevens, the Hall of Fame jockey who was aboard Royal Mo for the workout.

According to Stevens, the fracture is non-displaced but will be career-ending.

"He won't run again, but he'll make a good daddy," Stevens, reached by telephone, said of the son of Uncle Mo.

Stevens was working Royal Mo five furlongs in company when the incident happened near the quarter pole.

"Luckily I had a stranglehold on him. He was just rattling off 12s. He was going to go in a minute," Stevens said. "I was thinking about how much I was going to let him gallop out. And then I heard a loud pop. I was hoping he had just overreached, but that wasn't it.

"He was relishing the track. The track had a good bottom. The track had nothing to do with it. He was on cruise control."

Stevens said Royal Mo had ankle wraps on his ankles and that those bandages, affixed by the groom, helped prevent further damage.

New Bolton is where Barbaro was treated for a hind leg fracture after he broke down in the 2006 Preakness. Stevens said trainer John Shirreffs was on the van taking Royal Mo to New Bolton.
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6/10/17 - Belmont Stakes

Epicharis (Hagiwara/Lemaire)
Classic Empire (Casse/Leparoux)
Looking At Lee (Asmussen/I. Ortiz Jr.)
J Boys Echo (Romans/TBD)
Meantime (Lynch/Smith)
Multiplier (Walsh/Rosario)
Senior Investment (McPeek/Hill)
Tapwrit (Pletcher/J. Ortiz)
Twisted Tom (C. Brown/Casellano)
Gormley (Shirreffs/Espinoza)
Patch (Pletcher/Velazquez)
Irish War Cry (Motion/Maragh)
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Thank you Steve for the deletion!


And that's a DOOZY of a probable list!


The final jewel is going to be a great race on a great card! Already foaming at the mouth to jump in with my waders on!
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Old 05-23-2017, 08:47 PM
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Conquest Mo Money (Hernandez/Carreno)

Man, i forgot about this but what was up with the passive ride on this horse in the preakness?
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Man, i forgot about this but what was up with the passive ride on this horse in the preakness?
Terrible rider on the big stage? He's either out of his league or got the worst instructions ever.
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Terrible rider on the big stage? He's either out of his league or got the worst instructions ever.
+1

The smartest jockeys are the ones that ignore trainers instructions when it comes to riding a race.
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Terrible rider on the big stage? He's either out of his league or got the worst instructions ever.
On DRF it was reported that Carreno said the gates opened as the horse was still fully loading.
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6/10/17 - Belmont Stakes

Epicharis (Hagiwara/Lemaire)
Classic Empire (Casse/Leparoux)
Senior Investment (McPeek)
Looking At Lee (Asmussen/TBD)
Conquest Mo Money (Hernandez/Carreno)
Gormley (Shirreffs/Espinoza)
Irap (O’Neill/Gutierrez)
J Boys Echo (Romans/TBD)
Meantime (Lynch/TBD)
Multiplier (Walsh/TBD)
Patch (Pletcher/TBD)
Senior Investment (McPeek/Hill)
Tapwrit (Pletcher/J. Ortiz)
Twisted Tom (C. Brown/TBD)
I like J Boys Echo.
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