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Old 06-07-2006, 01:05 PM
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Sunriver winning in a paceless race is a positive from where I sit. He also closed at Gulfstream on a day where nobody else made a move all day. I may have squeezed all I can out of him taking a shorter than expected price in the Peter Pan, but Pletcher has this one running as good as anyone in this race.

As for High Finance, the reason he hasn't run more than 8f yet is because they don't card many maiden races at those distances. I'll toss him confidently.
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:13 PM
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Sunriver winning in a paceless race is a positive from where I sit. He also closed at Gulfstream on a day where nobody else made a move all day. I may have squeezed all I can out of him taking a shorter than expected price in the Peter Pan, but Pletcher has this one running as good as anyone in this race.

As for High Finance, the reason he hasn't run more than 8f yet is because they don't card many maiden races at those distances. I'll toss him confidently.

High Finance will have zero problem with the distance. He will win in a walk just like his broodmare sire Conquistador Cielo. If the track is wet it will be an even bigger margin.
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:26 PM
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I think he's got a shot... I'll definately include him in my P-4 ticket.
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:42 PM
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Pretty bold to say a horse never going more than a mile against maidens will have no problem going 12f in a G1. Besides, Conquistador Cielo really hasn't been a strong source of stamina as a sire. If I recall, his Belmont, though impressive, was aided by a sloppy track.
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Pretty bold to say a horse never going more than a mile against maidens will have no problem going 12f in a G1. Besides, Conquistador Cielo really hasn't been a strong source of stamina as a sire. If I recall, his Belmont, though impressive, was aided by a sloppy track.
Sure was sloppy, just like it will be on Saturday. Lone speed on a wet track. Tough to bet against him.
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:50 PM
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Pretty bold to say a horse never going more than a mile against maidens will have no problem going 12f in a G1. Besides, Conquistador Cielo really hasn't been a strong source of stamina as a sire. If I recall, his Belmont, though impressive, was aided by a sloppy track.
Did you know that Invisible Ink (place finisher in the 2001 Kentucky Derby) is also related to Conquistador Cielo through his broodmare's sire line? I thought that was interesting... also noteable (and ironic) is that Thunder Gulch was Invisible Ink's sire.

http://www.risinghill.com/InvisibleInk.pdf
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