Rays vs Phils - Page 2

ateamstupid · #21 10-22-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Cole Hamels is rarely an underdog but the Phillies starters drop off quite bit after him (except when Myers on occasion).

Yeah, it's an interesting matchup with the starting pitching of the Rays against the bullpen of the Phillies. I think the Rays are slightly better offensively, so I like them, but no predictions for fear of mushing.

declansharbor · #22 10-22-2008, 11:27 AM

It only takes this Phillies team an inning or two to do its damage. And Maddon can only throw Wheeler out there so many times. TB's starting pitching might be the goods, but it's that 3rd time around (6th or 7th inning) when that ball becomes as big as a softball for the Philly hitters. That, along with the wretched bullpen of the Rays, makes me lean towards...(I wont say it)

C'MON PHILS!!!!!!!!!!!!! WIN THIS ONE FOR HARRY K. (and the 100's of thousands of other starving fans)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mortimer · #23 10-22-2008, 11:29 AM

Stupid.

That's what you all are....stupid.

I ought to throw all of you into the shredder.

Mortimer · #24 10-22-2008, 11:30 AM

If the Fillies blew the play off run ...who would get all the blame?

That stupid hillbilly manager.

Antitrust32 · #25 10-22-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

If the Fillies blew the play off run ...who would get all the blame?

That stupid hillbilly manager.

LOL when I was leaving the Birds/Skins game a couple weeks ago at the Vet, and everyone was PISSED at Reid (which they should be, Reid Sucks hairy balls most of the time), I heard someone say, "ya know its bad when Charlie Manuel is the smartest manager in Philly".

Funny but True!

declansharbor · #26 10-22-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

If the Fillies blew the play off run ...who would get all the blame?

That stupid hillbilly manager.

Not true Mort. I, throughout the year, was staunch in blaming him for the team's woes. He totally exceeded my expectations and has gained my full trust and backing. The players seem to want to play for him, give him their all, a stark contrast to when Bowa was in charge. Manuel has my vote of confidence, and could be one of the better managers there is out there. He also has great coaches under him.

Mortimer · #27 10-22-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

LOL when I was leaving the Birds/Skins game a couple weeks ago at the Vet, and everyone was PISSED at Reid (which they should be, Reid Sucks hairy balls most of the time), I heard someone say, "ya know its bad when Charlie Manuel is the smartest manager in Philly".

Funny but True!

Uncly...Manuel doesn't play the book...he plays what he feels inside will work...and he is close to the players......you would never see him deep six a player like Brandon Phillips. He doesn't need you to brown nose him....just play good.

Antitrust32 · #28 10-22-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah, it's an interesting matchup with the starting pitching of the Rays against the bullpen of the Phillies. I think the Rays are slightly better offensively, so I like them, but no predictions for fear of mushing.

I definately can not agree with you that the Rays are slightly better offensively. Not sure how many people could agree with that either.

Utley, Howard, Rollins, Pat the Bat.....

and thats not even including guys like the Flyin Hawaiian (Victorino), & Werth.

Add some men that come up big in some spots like Ruiz, Coste & Dobbs and that is one heck of an offensive lineup!

Mortimer · #29 10-22-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

Not true Mort. I, throughout the year, was staunch in blaming him for the team's woes. He totally exceeded my expectations and has gained my full trust and backing. The players seem to want to play for him, give him their all, a stark contrast to when Bowa was in charge. Manuel has my vote of confidence, and could be one of the better managers there is out there. He also has great coaches under him.

'Tis about time.

OOOOOOOOOO

declansharbor · #30 10-22-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

LOL when I was leaving the Birds/Skins game a couple weeks ago at the Vet, and everyone was PISSED at Reid (which they should be, Reid Sucks hairy balls most of the time), I heard someone say, "ya know its bad when Charlie Manuel is the smartest manager in Philly".

Funny but True!

They are not hairy!

He'll turn the ship around as he always does.

Antitrust32 · #31 10-22-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

Uncly...Manuel doesn't play the book...he plays what he feels inside will work...and he is close to the players......you would never see him deep six a player like Brandon Phillips. He doesn't need you to brown nose him....just play good.

I love some of the things Manuel does, like when he benched Rollins for not running his fastest to first base... How many managers would bench their NL MVP like that?

He really gets his men to play hard for him and I'm very happy he's the Phils manager.

But he's never been known for his brains... that is why its funny to say he's the smartest manager in Philly!

Mortimer · #32 10-22-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I love some of the things Manuel does, like when he benched Rollins for not running his fastest to first base... How many managers would bench their NL MVP like that?

He really gets his men to play hard for him and I'm very happy he's the Phils manager.

But he's never been known for his brains... that is why its funny to say he's the smartest manager in Philly!

I do understand you,beautiful, but what I'm trying to say is the guy is smart.

Most people can't see that because they have been taught to think superficially only.

Antitrust32 · #33 10-22-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

They are not hairy!

He'll turn the ship around as he always does.

We'll see. IF, and its a big IF, Reid ever learns how to use time outs correctly and IF he lets his OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR call the plays, and IF hes stops being such a dumb bitch and saying **** like "Oh this is a learning experience", or "We will have to learn from that", or ANYTHING that has to do with learning.... Then maybe I'll like him.

Bigsmc · #34 10-22-2008, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Do teams go to a 3 man rotation ever for the WS? I'd love to have Cole be able to pitch 3 times if need be.

In what is one of the all time great World Series performances, Mickey Lolich won games 2, 5 and 7 in 1968 and pitched complete games in all three. Game 7 was on two days rest. Denny McLain had won 31 games during the season but was not himself in the Series, so Lolich got the call for game 7.

He outdueled the great Bob Gibson, who won games 1 and 4, in game 7. Gibson also pitched complete games in all three starts.

Back to your question. Yes, but not anymore. They baby the pitchers these days.

Don't be surprised to see Hamels come back on short rest if the Phils are in trouble, but I'm sure they won't be.....

Antitrust32 · #35 10-22-2008, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I what is one of the all time great World Series performances, Mickey Lolich won games 2, 5 and 7 in 1968 and pitched complete games in all three. Game 7 was on two days rest. Denny McLain had won 31 games during the season but was not himself in the Series, so Lolich got the call for game 7.

He outdueled the great Bob Gibson, who won games 1 and 4, in game 7. Gibson also pitched complete games in all three starts.

Back to your question. Yes, but not anymore. They baby the pitchers these days.

Don't be surprised to see Hamels come back on short rest if the Phils are in trouble, but I'm sure they won't be.....

Thanks for the answer! It will be a very good series I believe & I am SERIOUSLY considering driving to Tampa next week when the games come back to FL... do you know a good place to watch it in Tampa?

I dont feel much WS excitement in Ocala right now...

About your last sentence...

viscount26 · #36 10-22-2008, 02:01 PM

Tampa in 6

Bigsmc · #37 10-22-2008, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Thanks for the answer! It will be a very good series I believe & I am SERIOUSLY considering driving to Tampa next week when the games come back to FL... do you know a good place to watch it in Tampa?

I dont feel much WS excitement in Ocala right now...

About your last sentence...

Go to Fergs just north of the Dome for the best atmosphere. I'm sure it will be jammed with people that couldn't get tickets.

Not sure where to go in Tampa proper, but there are sports bars on every corner.

Antitrust32 · #38 10-22-2008, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Go to Fergs just north of the Dome for the best atmosphere. I'm sure it will be jammed with people that couldn't get tickets.

Not sure where to go in Tampa proper, but there are sports bars on every corner.

U going to any games??

declansharbor · #39 10-22-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

I what is one of the all time great World Series performances, Mickey Lolich won games 2, 5 and 7 in 1968 and pitched complete games in all three. Game 7 was on two days rest. Denny McLain had won 31 games during the season but was not himself in the Series, so Lolich got the call for game 7.

He outdueled the great Bob Gibson, who won games 1 and 4, in game 7. Gibson also pitched complete games in all three starts.

Back to your question. Yes, but not anymore. They baby the pitchers these days.

Don't be surprised to see Hamels come back on short rest if the Phils are in trouble, but I'm sure they won't be.....

You too?

I would've liked to see them skip Moyer's start altogether and use him out of the pen for an inning or two. This way, Hamels would throw tonight and Sunday, but that just isnt going to happen, unless...

Moyer throws too slow and those bats of TB will probably get to him. The Phils would need alot of run support in that game, IMO.

and Bigs...What is up with you and I being tied in everything? FF and NFL pick 'em, the latter being a weird coincidence...Guess this series will help settle the score...

Best of luck to you in the other two.

Bigsmc · #40 10-22-2008, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

U going to any games??

Tonight and tomorrow night. Taking Friday off work....