SUMWON: Game 2nd in Thriller.. - Page 11

Antitrust32 · #**201** 05-26-2007, 05:47 PM

not opinions that only agree with the owner, but your seconditis crap is idiotic. She ran an amazing race, yeah she had a great trip but if she would have figured out how to change her leads without weaving she would have been in the winners circle. You seem to forget she only lost by a head and she fought hard. It was pretty spectacular considering she broke her maiden for 15k at mountaineer. I dont own this horse either but she has zero case of seconditis. Shes just finished 2nd to some really nice horses. Chucks only had her for a couple months and hes had to completely re-train her. 50k allowance is a huge purse, she's running at a top level.

gosh

stonegossard · #**202** 05-26-2007, 05:53 PM

Again....this is just my opinion. I dont see it as silly, but if thats what you think thats fine. But she sat right behind a speed horse who figured to chuck it on the turn and easily went around her. To me that is a perfect trip. The winner had to go wide around her. It really doesnt get much better than that. She is a nice horse who got beat by a better horse. Now in her next if she doesnt get a perfect set up and wins then I will be the first to say congrats.

Curlin did not have an easy trip and was as gutsy as a horse can get to comeback and beat SS who had a better trip. There is no comaprison between todyas race and The Preaknes.

Scav · #**203** 05-26-2007, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stonegossard

Again....this is just my opinion. I dont see it as silly, but if thats what you think thats fine. But she sat right behind a speed horse who figured to chuck it on the turn and easily went around her. To me that is a perfect trip. The winner had to go wide around her. It really doesnt get much better than that. She is a nice horse who got beat by a better horse. Now in her next if she doesnt get a perfect set up and wins then I will be the first to say congrats.

Curlin did not have an easy trip and was as gutsy as a horse can get to comeback and beat SS who had a better trip. There is no comaprison between todyas race and The Preaknes.

I tend to agree with you but she did go 4w and had problems getting over to correct lead again. Martinez helped her into it. Sometimes they just don't want to do it. I think what people are impressed with is that she had every reason to quit today and didn't, i didn't see how she galloped out, anyone see?

stonegossard · #**204** 05-26-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

not opinions that only agree with the owner, but your seconditis crap is idiotic. She ran an amazing race, yeah she had a great trip but if she would have figured out how to change her leads without weaving she would have been in the winners circle. You seem to forget she only lost by a head and she fought hard. It was pretty spectacular considering she broke her maiden for 15k at mountaineer. I dont own this horse either but she has zero case of seconditis. Shes just finished 2nd to some really nice horses. Chucks only had her for a couple months and hes had to completely re-train her. 50k allowance is a huge purse, she's running at a top level.

gosh

She has ran in 2 races in which she had a somewhat easy trip and got 2nd...and had a perfect set up..and ran 2nd. Sounds like seconditis to me. It's not like its a bad thing...still collecting some nice checks with decent purses. She obviosuly is running in the right place and has been spotted very well by Simon in her last two.

Christ...its just one person's opinion. It's not like I am on here saying that some of the outlandish things being said at times are crap. These people have every right to state what they think..just like me.

stonegossard · #**205** 05-26-2007, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

I tend to agree with you but she did go 4w and had problems getting over to correct lead again. Martinez helped her into it. Sometimes they just don't want to do it. I think what people are impressed with is that she had every reason to quit today and didn't, i didn't see how she galloped out, anyone see?

Like I stated earlier I thought the 2 would blow by her...and didnt. The horse is a gutsy one.

hockey2315 · #**206** 05-26-2007, 06:05 PM

F*** the haters. . . Sumwon ran a great race and all the owners should be proud. . . Congrats to Chuck and Steve especially- what they've done is very impressive. . . Hope she comes back healthy and keeps improving. . .

Antitrust32 · #**207** 05-26-2007, 06:10 PM

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EASY... "RICHARD" HEAD...YOUR JUST HATEN CUZ WE HAVE A NICE HORSE AND YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING...SHE DID NOT GET A GOOD TRIP....JUST LEAVE IT ALONE DUDE..

i have to agree she had a good trip. Rated nicely made a great move, her problem was changing her leads. If that would have happened 'correctly', ya'll would have a picture.

just wondering (not being a richard) why do you feel she didnt have a good trip?

2 Dollar Bill · #**208** 05-26-2007, 06:11 PM

Looking at the chart, (didnt see the race live ) .. It looks like she did again battle, pick up a nice check, and I hope she came back safe & sound. Im glad im along for this ride !!!!!!

golfer · #**209** 05-26-2007, 06:12 PM

She ran fantastic, game as hell.. got bumped out of the gate, and bumped top of the stretch, which certainly didn't help.

stonegossard · #**210** 05-26-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

EASY... "RICHARD" HEAD...YOUR JUST HATEN CUZ WE HAVE A NICE HORSE AND YOUR OPINION MEANS NOTHING...SHE DID NOT GET A GOOD TRIP....JUST LEAVE IT ALONE DUDE..

Again with the names. I wont go all postal and drop down to your level. I could care less that you own the horse. I love the thinking on here.....if someone agrees with you they have a great opinion..if they disagree their opinion means nothing. You sound like a bit of a child.

In all honesty if you didnt see todays trip as a very good/perfect one than either you are being blinded by your involvement/ or have not seen too many races.

I guess Steve should lock certain threads like these to only people who all agree.

Good luck with everything......DUDE.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #**211** 05-26-2007, 06:16 PM

bumped at the start ...the 6 fanned her out she had a horses on either side of her sandwitched at the 8th pole then came back to the winner..not what id call a perfect trip

stonegossard · #**212** 05-26-2007, 06:18 PM

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So I've sat this out, but now I think everyone needs to relax. I don't think Stone intended to come across as "hating" on Sumwon. He was just stating how he saw the race. No need to go all crazy on him. His post wasn't out of jealousy, just how he saw it.

Sumwon ran a gutsy race, Chuck found a nice one and good luck in the future with her.

Thank you. You are exactly 100 percent right. If the horse won I woulda posted CONGRATS. Just posting what I saw.

Certain people on here are being ridiculous with their attacks. They are being downright childish and I aint gonna drop to their level. It's not like I am saying anything negative.

I should just stay to conversing with my good buddy DrugS.

stonegossard · #**213** 05-26-2007, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

bumped at the start ...the 6 fanned her out she had a horses on either side of her sandwitched at the 8th pole then came back to the winner..not what id call a perfect trip

Thats fine DUDE.

I thought she had a perfect set up. You didnt.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #**214** 05-26-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

bumped at the start ...the 6 fanned her out she had a horses on either side of her sandwitched at the 8th pole then came back to the winner..not what id call a perfect trip

listen pal ive seen more than my share of races....for you to tell me anything about a trip is pretty funny..so thats all ive got to say to you sir

hockey2315 · #**215** 05-26-2007, 06:20 PM

a perfect trip doesn't guarantee victory. . . that's the part of your argument that doesn't make sense. . .

Antitrust32 · #**216** 05-26-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

bumped at the start ...the 6 fanned her out she had a horses on either side of her sandwitched at the 8th pole then came back to the winner..not what id call a perfect trip

yeah, maybe not perfect but it was a good trip. it is a horse race after all! she rated real nice i was impressed, and i was totally impressed with her courage, a lil' different lead change would have been all it took for a win.

I watched the race with a guy who's been in the biz his whole life. He said that when he started 50k was a decent stakes race. Also, to take a horse from the "bottom" ranks (where sumwon started) to finish a head out in a good allowance at churchill is rarely done (without the help of pletcher/allday of course).

You guys have yourselves a heck of a filly

Storm Cadet · #**217** 05-26-2007, 06:21 PM

Just got home and watched the race replay...another great effort in a tough race. Man this horse is a tough gutsy competitor!

Congrats to Steve, Chuck and all the owners. You should all be VERY proud. Keep it going...and keep getting those nice checks!

stonegossard · #**218** 05-26-2007, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

listen pal ive seen more than my share of races....for you to tell me anything about a trip is pretty funny..so thats all ive got to say to you sir

You are really being ridiculous. I am not going to get into a pissing contest with you on who has seen more races.

stonegossard · #**219** 05-26-2007, 06:29 PM

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You've certainly had an eventful week on the message board circuit.

LOL. You aren't kidding.

I am tired man. I do come on with good intentions..then things go all crazy and we hit Defcon 5.

Maybe I need an editor. Or maybe just stop saying what I think.

pmacdaddy · #**220** 05-26-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

stone gossard .....soon as you go out and find a horse ..pay for it .train it to go from 15 claimers at the mtn to 50 allw with a 30 plus beyer improvment ill take your opinion as fact....unlil then you should just be positive..as most on here are very excited ..

Man speaks the truth...

Chuck and his team, identified at auction a horse who broke her Maidem at Mountaineer in a claimer. Purchased her and trained her to run her eyeballs outan moving up in class in two out of three starts earning well over 50% of her purchase price.

Honestly feel like I was probably 5+ years from gettig in this game.

Me and everyone I know that is personally involved iin this, is having the time f'ng of our lives. Being involved with Filly, in whatever small way, is a true highllight for me.

BIG PROPS!!!